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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #315 on: October 16, 2014, 07:19:35 PM »

Your persistence is inspiring!!   ;)

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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #316 on: October 17, 2014, 08:41:01 AM »
Hi I bought a alternator / power steering pump from someone on the fe fourm that bolts at the orignal location, it fits great, its off a volvo one belt a real cool setup you should post on fe fourm to see if he has another, its neat one belt. Call me if you want and see if I can email you a picture 1-406-two-two7-758seven Leny Mason

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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #317 on: October 17, 2014, 09:34:35 AM »
Leny would you pm me a pic of that?
Don't wanna hijack.
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #318 on: October 18, 2014, 10:49:28 AM »
Hi leny

Yes. Please post a photo of that setup on this page. I would love to see it
Jason
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #319 on: October 18, 2014, 12:53:08 PM »
A little different solution, but here's a link to the other forum on what Randy M. did for an SOHC with an Isuzu component that has the pump and alternator combined. Just to further the discussion for anyone looking for ideas, kind of slick I thought. Not sure if this is what Leny is thinking of.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/message/1304037204/
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #320 on: October 18, 2014, 02:32:02 PM »
cobra,  Hi that is the one that I bought its a cool setup, I thought he said it was Volvo doesn't matter Isuzu pickup. Leny Mason   

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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #321 on: October 18, 2014, 04:26:23 PM »
Here is my setup at this time

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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #322 on: October 19, 2014, 07:50:38 AM »
That looks great to me if there is room, Wayne Jeffers did what you are doing years ago said it was a perfect fit, he said it had no name valve covers on it,  and and the kids / tuner bunch said wow that has a Honda engine in it, so he put Ford valve covers on it, that fixed that, Waynes gone now ,one of his stories. Leny Mason

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« Reply #323 on: October 19, 2014, 02:36:25 PM »
I'm very interested in this power steering pump alternator combo. I have done a bit of searching & all I come up with is an alternator & vacuum pump combo for an Isuzu truck. IS this a case of mistaken identity or are there 2 combo's? Anyone have a part number or specific application for further research?
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #324 on: October 20, 2014, 08:05:03 AM »
Same here.  I saw that its a vacuum pump on the back of the Isuzu alternators.  Also, I only found up to 110 Amps....  the Saleen has a base need of 135 Amps.  I like the idea of the combo though.  Can the Vacuum pump be used with hydraulic fluid (like PS fluid) to run the pump? 

On my end, I am ready to Pull the Saleen engine.  I spent this weekend very meticulously marking each wiring connection/ sensor connection with tags and zip ties.  You would not believe how many sensors/ etc. are on these modern car!  I found cam sensors, crank sensors, A/C compressor sensor, and most of the usual ones.  Either way, It took the better part of 3 days to slowly pull each connection, mark it accordingly, and pull it out of the way.  Last one left is the water temperature sensor and oddly enough it is located in the Valley of the block.  I have taken out the AC condenser, Radiator and Fan combo, and literally there is a TON of room under the hood.  Cammer engine measures 31 inches across at the widest part, and that seems perfectly suited to fit where the modular motor sits.  I have my father coming down thie weekend and I will pull the engine and hopefully get started swapping out the stock K member and suspension with the AJE tubular cross member.

Also, I have noticed that the motor mounts will work fine if I only use 3 bolt locations to mount them in stead of all 4.....  Would 3 bolts mounting the motor mount to the block suffice? 
Jason
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #325 on: October 20, 2014, 09:00:13 AM »
Three bolts for the motor mount plate will be just fine.
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #326 on: October 20, 2014, 09:01:16 AM »
Hi after you get the old engine out look at all your coolant temp sensors / sensers, now is the time to find a spot for them before you get the new one in, I think there is three if I remember right just a reminder I have done some of these swaps, the new cars have a lot of sensors and sensers what a fun car it will be. Leny Mason

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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #327 on: October 20, 2014, 10:49:28 AM »
Hey Lenny,

Already started.  There is a Coolant temp sensor (which should mount right near the distributor on the Cammer), there is the oil temp sensor, which on the Saleen is mounted in a bung in the oil pan, but I may not use it as there is no gauge for it, and then there is the oil pressure sensor which on the Saleen is mounted right where it would be on the Cammer (in the oil filter adapter.)  I have the aftermarket harness to link the 3 G alternator right to the 6G harness from the Saleen, so that should take care of the volts.....  So on my dash gauges, That covers water temp, volts, oil pressure, Fuel pressure (which is not controlled from the engine bay, so it should be fine).  Speedo will come from the trans.... and tach is still a work on progress.  The Saleen has a crank sensor which feeds the speedo.  I am googling my little heart out to see if there is some way to convert the signal from the MSD distributor so that the harness for the crank sensor can read it and give an accurate RPM on the Tach.

I have pulled the whole harness and marked each and every plug.....  Tons of them will not be used, but at least I will know what is what!  :0)
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #328 on: October 20, 2014, 10:50:30 AM »
Three bolts for the motor mount plate will be just fine.
Thanks Jay.  I will shave the Drivers side a little so it clears the screw in water plug, and then I should be set!
Jason
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Re: My 427 SOHC Build..... Finally the time has come!
« Reply #329 on: October 20, 2014, 11:26:32 AM »
OK gentlemen......  I need assistance with a little experience.  I just got off the phone with MSD ignition, FAST EFI, Painless Wiring, Ron Francis wiring, Summitracing (who sent out feelers to all he knows in the field), and about a dozen others......

The MSD 6AL ignition box puts out a 12 Volt "Square Wave" signal.  The original Crankshaft Position sensor on the Saleens Modular 4.6 puts out a 5 Volt "Square Wave" signal.  I need to somehow convert the 12 volt "Square Wave" signal to a 5 Volt "Square Wave" signal so the Tachometer will work.

Now they do not make an aftermarket Tach that will fit in my dash panel for the 2005 Saleen S-281.  They sell tons of converter boxes that will turn a 5 Volt signal into a 12 volt signal, but no one seems to know how to go in the opposite direction.

It took me hours and hours of research, and I came across a small forum page on "Honda's".  Someone was using an MSD product and could not get their Tach to work.  A bunch of (I will call them electrical engineers for lack of a better term) chimed in in a language lost to me.  However, they stated that if you go to RadioShack and pick up a 5V regulator with a heat sink(?) it will work.  Lo and behold.... they tach worked.....  Where I get foggy is they show a picture of the 5V regulator and I couldn't even begin to guess where this gets connected????  At the harness connection? spliced into the wiring somewhere?  Soldered to the back of the Tack unit in the dash?  Take a look at the forum posting.  I am going to stop by a radio shack this weekend and chew the fat with the techiest person I can find there.

http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=523124
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Jason
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