Starting to understand why building engines may be best left to the professional

[Barry_R]

Shouldn't you guys be talking on the phone? I appreciate all the information being shared here but this is long past the title of the thread...

This is an excellent and informative thread - keep it going

[My427stang]

Paul, one thing that I lost track of.  Which distributor is in it now?

If MSD, easy to add spring (15 minute job with parts) to delay advance, if Ford, can be even faster by bending tabs through an access hole in the advance plate to tighten up the springs a little.   

[Yellow Truck]

The MSD is dead (waiting to ship it back), the Autolite is in it now. Faron replied that it is in the mail and he'll get me a tracking number tonight. He has it set up for all timing to be in by 2,800.

BTW, I certainly think this thread has been informative! I understand how someone who knows all this might not.

[My427stang]

The MSD is dead (waiting to ship it back), the Autolite is in it now. Faron replied that it is in the mail and he'll get me a tracking number tonight. He has it set up for all timing to be in by 2,800.

BTW, I certainly think this thread has been informative! I understand how someone who knows all this might not.

Awesome, may as well wait for the new one, but be sure to go through the same care in setting the initial based on whatever he put in for mechanical, then verify it is doing what you expected

[Yellow Truck]

From Faron this morning - "9 in it all in by 2800, I would have the initial at 16 , not 20". Not sure what "9 in it" means.

[blykins]

9 degrees * 2 = 18 deg of advance

[Yellow Truck]

9 degrees * 2 = 18 deg of advance

Of course. I should have known that.

[blykins]

It gets you by surprise.  You're expecting the normal amount of degrees that we talk about......14-16-18, etc.  When someone says 9, you have to sit and think about it. 

[Drew Pojedinec]

Shouldn't you guys be talking on the phone? I appreciate all the information being shared here but this is long past the title of the thread...

This is an excellent and informative thread - keep it going

Agreed.....

I'm just waiting on Paul to find the vacuum leak.

[machoneman]

Shouldn't you guys be talking on the phone? I appreciate all the information being shared here but this is long past the title of the thread...

This is an excellent and informative thread - keep it going
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Yep, keep it going! ]

[My427stang]

9 degrees * 2 = 18 deg of advance

Of course. I should have known that.

So when you get that one, set it at 16 initial (34 total-18 in the distributor).  Should make a world of difference on pinging.

I am of course assuming 34 total for BBMs and a good quench, Brent or Barry can adjust my number based on what they see on the dyno, but I am pretty sure they want less total (regular heads are closer to 38)

[blykins]

It will want 32-34 deg total timing.  A lot of the time I can make a pull at 34 and pull 2 deg out and it makes the same power, so I leave it alone.  On the street, if it doesn't feel lazy, you're in a better spot with less total.

[Yellow Truck]

I got the carb off, I find it I spill less gas if I pull it and open it on a big cookie sheet on the bench, and I can put the fuel back in the tank. Here is a thought for Jay, our resident engineering genius, - the world needs a little spout you can install on the bottom corner of a Holley to direct the fuel to what ever you are using for a catch can.

I found the primary jets were actually 70s, not 72s as I had been told. No matter, it is now back to 76/84, and the 6.5 PV is in place. I bent the secondary link a little.

I haven't touched the mixture screws, I will take them back to factory before I put it back on in the morning.

Don't know how long USPS and Canada Post will take to deliver the new dizzy. I will start it tomorrow and take the timing back to 16.
I won't bolt it down and connect it until mid-morning. Here is what the butterflies look like now (closed the secondary a little) - open to suggestions before I button it up:

Secondary
IMG_3435 by Fred Snoyd, on Flickr

Primary
IMG_3436 by Fred Snoyd, on Flickr

[Drew Pojedinec]

Most folks just use a cup and take the bottom bowl screw out, drain the fuel and than take the carb off.

I have a butchered gear oil bottle that I use as a gasoline funnel to fill the bowls with when I reinstall.

[Yellow Truck]

Most folks just use a cup and take the bottom bowl screw out, drain the fuel and than take the carb off.

I have a butchered gear oil bottle that I use as a gasoline funnel to fill the bowls with when I reinstall.

I know, but it is hard to direct and there is stuff in the way. The rear bowl is worse. A little metal spout acting as a washer on top of the rubber washer, under the screw head, could direct the fuel an inch away where it would be easier to catch it.