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FE Technical Forum / Re: hp limit on A scratch block
« Last post by hbstang on September 12, 2026, 09:58:30 PM »
my427stang,i had an original 68 1/2 cobra jet fastback that had the no 2 main with a large crack in the threads.lost oil pressure.everything else was nice,but a mostly stock engine.junked the block,later sold the car.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by Joe-JDC on September 12, 2026, 09:28:58 PM »
For the last 40+ years since owning a SF-600 flow bench, I have tried to get the intake to exhaust flow bias above 70% for most street and strip heads.  That is without the use of a pipe on the exhaust port.  If you can get at least 70%, then the duration of the exhaust only needs to be 4* or less more than the intake to make very good power and torque.  If the bias is less, then the exhaust duration needs to be more, 6-8-10-12* depending on how much power you are looking to make.  To get 1.4hp/ci, you don't need a lot of compression, but trying to get over 1.5/1.6hp/ci you are going to need somewhere above 12.5 to 14.1 compression ratios with the FE.  For the street most engines need less than 8.0 DCR to run on premium 93 octane.  You might be able to get away with 8.1 or 8.2  DCR with aluminum heads and fast burn combustion chambers of the more modern head designs.  The TFS FE heads are capable of 350cfm+ with minor tweaking and cost ~$2750.00 from Summit last time I checked.  That it hard to beat in today's market.  JMO, your experience may differ.  Joe-JDC
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by CaptCobrajet on September 12, 2026, 09:22:20 PM »
We work on all FE heads…….every kind of OE head, and every kind of aftermarket head.  Lots of people blow about the Trick Flow heads.  They are good heads.  I send a lot of BBM heads to people and shops that know about the newer BBM heads.  I find it odd that no one who is telling you the TFS heads are better “bang for the buck” have bought any of these BBMs.  I know this because I know where I send them.  They are a little bit more money, but the prices have remained the same, and will remain the same until I run out of castings and have to address that.  So if they cost a little more, and perform better, what is the yardstick for “bang for the buck” when the lesser expensive head does not perform as well?  It is a bit of an uninformed opinion if there is no comparative data.  One might argue that a standard Edelbrock is the best bang for the buck.  It is much less money, and also makes less power, but what is the yardstick?  How much more, incrementally, is a person willing to pay, for increased performance, incrementally?  It just depends on the individual.

 I have had or do have just about every kind of FE head there is here, or they have been at one time or another.  Just for what it’s worth, I had iron Cobra Jet heads with 2.09 valves 20 years ago that would outperform the current Trick Flow heads.  Obviously they were/are extensively worked, and expensive, but Mr. Lykins just posted that the TFS would be “way better” than any LR or MR head, even if ported. That is an incorrect statement.  Like I said, the Trick Flow heads are good.  I use quite a bit of their parts, FE and otherwise, but they are not the only show in town. The C4-G Engine Masters iron heads are not far off the Trick Flow on 400-ish cubes, and these days cost less. The usual comments about my engines are that the dyno must be wrong.  We didn’t use my dyno at Engine Masters, and those old iron heads made 600 hp there, with 10.5 CR and .575 lift, on 396 inches.  Not sure what the definition of “way better” is.  Those were not Super Stock heads.  No epoxy in the intake port, no brass in the exhaust. Less than 3K for a pair.  They are not always shelf ready either, so I generally default to the BBMs, of which we have plenty , at this time.   I am not, by any means bashing Trick Flow.  I am simply making the point that they are not alone.  I spend a lot more time working on heads than I do pecking on a keyboard.  I don’t really have time to properly market my junk, so it is often left out of these posts.  I generally don’t say too much anymore.  I don’t post everything we run in the dyno section.  I am going to post one next week.  BBM “F” version heads, 13.5 CR, Trick Flow tunnel wedge, 520 cubes.  We’ll see how that shakes out.  Thank you Frank for the honorable mention!
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by blykins on September 12, 2026, 05:39:46 PM »
My mistake. I thought I saw an AFR FE head listing somewhere.

No problem.  AFR has a good reputation for SBF heads (and they'd no doubt make a great FE head) but they have recently started casting a lot of their heads offshore.  I know that means a lot to some and even some of the heads that are mentioned in this thread are cast offshore.  Some guys really throw fits on the forum for using offshore parts.  FWIW, Edelbrock, Pond, and Trick Flow are still cast here in the US.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by frnkeore on September 12, 2026, 05:15:37 PM »
Lets not forget Blair's BBM heads.

Very bit as good, if not mostly better than the TFS heads. Maybe a couple of bucks more but, you'll need to talk to him. Could even be cheaper now TFS keeps going up:

BBM FE CYLINDER HEADS

BBM has been manufacturing and selling high quality Ford FE cylinder heads for over a decade now.  For over ten years, we have been working with Blair Patrick Enterprises for final prep of our complete head packages.  We are excited to announce our latest updated castings!   BBM and Blair Patrick Enterprises have developed new intake and exhaust ports, and updated our chamber to produce a new high quality casting, with improved flow, efficiency, and performance.  There are more port options and expanded valve spring options available. Intake valve sizes 2.100, 2.200, 2.220, and 2.250. Exhaust valve sizes 1.625, 1.665, and 1.680.  Sales of the new heads are being handled by Blair Patrick Enterprises.  Blair will work with you to be sure we provide you with the best port, valve sizing, and hardware options to suit your specific needs.  Contact Blair Patrick and let us tailor your heads for your application based on years of successful experience in the FE community.   BPE can also provide you with top end packages, camshaft and valvetrain components, rotating assemblies, or complete engines using BBM cylinder heads. Email blairpatrickfe@gmail.com to take advantage of our updated castings, coupled with  BPE’s 40+ years of FE experience to get the most out of your combination.

With the bigger heads, you can get results such as this 1.66 hp per ci, 839 hp, 504 ci killer:

https://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=13305.0
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by blykins on September 12, 2026, 04:32:23 PM »
If you're planning on using a 428 block, a 462-ish size engine with unported factory heads will do well to make 1 hp/ci. 

A TFS headed 462 with a Performer RPM, hydraulic roller, on pump gas, with 14" of manifold vacuum will make about 100hp more than that.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by Mark Bliss on September 12, 2026, 04:26:40 PM »
Well yeah, that's why I knew even way back then to choose a cam with more exhaust duration. And I know we still choose cam lobes based on some of this. And I know there are other benefits besides flow to a modern cylinder head design. Combustion chamber being high on the list.
But how much potential loss... 15-20? 30-50?
I know... it depends. Just spit balling thoughts.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by blykins on September 12, 2026, 04:25:58 PM »
Here's what you have to look forward to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwewni8GDeI
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by blykins on September 12, 2026, 04:18:49 PM »
Intake/exhaust flow ratio data is still very important.  Camshafts are ground around that.

With that being said, even with an "undesirable" header, the TFS is going to be way ahead of any factory LR or MR cylinder head, even with work done to them. 
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by Mark Bliss on September 12, 2026, 04:14:32 PM »
My mistake. I thought I saw an AFR FE head listing somewhere.

But OK, related question-
We have often dwelled on intake to exhaust flow ratio data. "Back in the day" it was often described as a common FE weakness and we often tried various ways to crutch them up...
Some modern builders have downplayed giving it too much attention.
But even more to the point, how much effect does putting these things in a Mustang with shock towers and headers with sharp turns at the port exit...
I guess my point is obvious. I feel there was very little benefit to the port work I did back in the late 70's when I was young and still breaking the chronic "more is better" habit. These 67 GT heads are pretty, but one of many minor mistakes.
This time around I want to research and get good value and a well matched balanced combination.
So good heads. How much money wasted choking with shock tower headers? The things look good with Dyno headers, but... maybe cheaper heads. Or maybe chop those towers out. Yikes. Very unusually solid S code car.
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