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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #120 on: October 27, 2020, 06:51:27 AM »
Does anyone know if the fuel line routing was changed for the 3/8 hipo application?

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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #121 on: October 27, 2020, 09:22:36 AM »
Fuel line looks the same. I held a 5/16" and 3/8" side by side, no difference, just size.
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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #122 on: October 27, 2020, 03:52:43 PM »
Does anyone know if the fuel line routing was changed for the 3/8 hipo application?
The previous response is spot on same routing,and while swapping to a larger preformed line is a piece of cake while the body is off frame,it is much more difficult with body on frame,it entails removing the driver side body mount bolts and loosening the passenger side bolts and jacking up the driver side of the body since it crosses over the frame rail twice.

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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #123 on: November 01, 2020, 11:09:56 PM »
360HP 352 that was very competitive in the PNW back in the early '60s

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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #124 on: November 02, 2020, 02:06:29 AM »
Where is that "Like" button :)
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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #125 on: November 10, 2020, 02:41:36 PM »
Great thread guys!  I haven't been around in awhile but I really enjoyed this thread!  Keep up the 352-360 & 390-375/401 talk!!  We will be building a 390-330 this winter and a 390-375 after that....

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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #126 on: November 11, 2020, 03:31:16 PM »
I went to Dad's and dug around and found what we believe to be an original 352-360 camshaft.  If someone is putting together a group of camshafts for the Cam Doctor we would be more than willing to send it to be checked.  Just let me know and we will send it your way.

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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #127 on: November 11, 2020, 03:45:53 PM »
Jody, I'd be interested in the results of that, so we can purchase the proper cam for our Starliner project.
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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #128 on: November 11, 2020, 04:14:50 PM »
I believe earlier in this thread Werby or Royce were considering doing this.  Hopefully they will answer up.  I may also be able to dig up an original 1961 390-375/401 camshaft.  Neither are for sale but we could loan them out as long as they are returned.

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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #129 on: November 11, 2020, 05:29:14 PM »
Would you be willing to share the markings on the cams?
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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #130 on: November 11, 2020, 06:23:37 PM »
I got my hands on a 61 390 375 cam that I sent for a Cam Dr exam.. Werby is the expert on this but the consensus seems to be the 352/360 and the 390/375 are the same cam?
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #131 on: November 11, 2020, 07:39:23 PM »
Would you be willing to share the markings on the cams?
The 352-360 has C0AE on the end with orange paint between the front lobes.  We haven't dug out the 390-375 yet.  I've always thought the two cams were the same but I have seen it also questioned.

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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #132 on: November 11, 2020, 08:25:37 PM »
No paint and no numbers on the one I have  Just XBA cast into it..
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #133 on: November 11, 2020, 08:43:19 PM »
Would you be willing to share the markings on the cams?
The 352-360 has C0AE on the end with orange paint between the front lobes.  We haven't dug out the 390-375 yet.  I've always thought the two cams were the same but I have seen it also questioned.

One thing you can do quickly before cam doctor is just measure the lobe lifts with a 1.5" mic.
I do this on all cams, all 16 lobes, then (years) later you can compare the wear on each lobe.

The main controversy on the early cams is that some places list a .480 net lift, which would make this cam different from the 427 cam's .500 net lift.

Other than that the known "advertised" durations are all the same, just measured differently. Some places say 306-306 advertised, others 274-274 advertised. Of course .050 is not published anywhere so a full measurement would be good to get the history right.

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Re: 360 horse 352
« Reply #134 on: November 11, 2020, 10:19:45 PM »
The motor in this 352/360 Starliner I purchased was allegedly "freshly rebuilt". It was stuck from sitting but broke free pretty easily and started right up.  The engine needed to be re-detailed so I pulled it.. While out i thought i would check the heads and see what cam was in it as well..  I got me a genuine Frankenstein FE here.

C0AE D heads but set up with CJ valves. Springs seem like stock 352

B9 block    bored to 4.13.  At least 1 cylinder is .060 in spots.

Cheap Cast replacement standard bore 428  piston with a compression hght of 1.66

C3ae C rods with 13/32 nuts

Cam had no identifying marks  It's not Ford  It has 3 lobes ground off. about .500 lift on a good lobe. Shop converted the block for cam retainer plate.

crank is 2UA.. with a couple slugs of Mallory in it. Finished off with a Ford windage tray

Have not pulled the crank yet, but plenty of damage to the rod bearing and crank journals.. I would sure like to meet the shop that screwed this thing together.  (Somewhere in the Chicago area)   The oil pump screen has a nice coating of RTV "worms" and there is a very thick layer moly assembly lube in the bottom of the pan..I bought the car with questions about the motor since it has been sitting and was stuck..  So it's not shocking it had internal issues,  but the parts selection is laughable.. I am sure the owner thought he had a real hot FE.. I think he only drove it a few times before he died.. Another 100 miles and it would have self destructed .
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7