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Joe-JDC

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My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« on: September 25, 2019, 09:35:52 PM »
This year's entry will be another 292 Y Block Ford that is a true Y Block with Ford block, iron heads, crankshaft, oil pan, water pump driven by fan belt.  It will be +.062 over bore at 3.812", and the stroke is 3.310" with 10.45:1 compression rounded up to 303 CI.  Camshaft is solid lifter with 233/240 @ .050, 105* CL, .591" zero lash, and single four aluminum intake with BG 930 DP, FPA headers, MSD ignition.

I will be in partnership with Ted Eaton this year for the challenge.  We are supposed to be 6th up on Monday.

What is your guess on torque and horsepower?  Originally this engine was rated from Ford at 202 HP.

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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2019, 11:04:50 PM »
I’ll take a stab.... 430hp, 360tq.
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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2019, 05:19:39 AM »
I'll go with 370 TQ and 385 HP

Joe - - you are actually running two engines in this years contest since you did the heads and intake on my entry as well.

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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2019, 01:19:25 PM »
Are there EMC RPM parameters?

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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2019, 03:54:42 PM »
390 hp- 375 torq
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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2019, 09:30:05 PM »
Are there EMC RPM parameters?
Yes, this year you can choose a 3000 rpm band that you want to compete with.  The rpm band is from 3200-7200, and they start the pull 200 before your start point, and go 100 rpm past the cutoff point.  The lowest pull will be 3200-6200, and highest pull will be 4200-7200.  The average tq and average hp for that 3000 rpm band will be added together and multiplied by 1000, and then divided by the claimed cubic inch.  Add your three best pulls together and average them for the final score.  This year, it made the camshaft selection a bit more difficult, but did let us choose our best pulls in a given rpm range.  I really like that idea, especially for these older engines, pre '69.   Joe-JDC
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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2019, 01:47:16 AM »
Thanks Joe.......415hp 365tq.....Good luck with the XYZ 28 engine.

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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2019, 05:32:20 AM »
I am going to say 475 HP / 380 TQ, I think you likely have it breathing pretty well
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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2019, 09:14:55 AM »
How about 385 HP and 385 torque.

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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2019, 09:34:59 AM »
I think Mr Brunson will be real close.  I will go with 425 and 350.  This thing would be killer at 12:1
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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2019, 03:30:23 PM »
Update.  At home we were making 390 tq, 454 hp, using a mixture of pump gas and 110 VP.  At EMC, 367 tq, 430 hp.  The fuel used threw us a curve, again.  Brought a drum back to Texas for testing to get a handle on the Sunoco 100 oxygenated.  Made 12 pulls in our 35 minutes, two jet changes, and a timing change, all the wrong way due to the fuel not responding as expected.  Lean mixture of the oxygenated fuel will run hot and not produce more power.  It needs more fuel, not less.  Lesson learned.  Still, not bad for a 303 cubic inch Y block that is a 64 year old design.  Joe-JDC 
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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2019, 09:48:32 PM »
not bad indeed . love to see you still learning after all these years .

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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2019, 09:51:43 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2019, 11:04:50 PM »
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I’ll take a stab.... 430hp, 360tq.



you must have known something about the fuel being used at emc . that was very close .
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Re: My 2019 EMC engine Horsepower guess?
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2019, 08:10:29 AM »
Nice Joe with 1.287 per CID torque and 1.498 on hp. Scaled up, for the heck of it, to say a 427 CID FE, that's 550 torque and 640 on hp!  :)
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