CVR Electric Water Pump Adapters for the FE

[fe66comet]

That explains a lot, seems like they kinda over thought the fix by redesigning the pump and intake though. Then they needed to stock and produce more parts.

[fe66comet]

How far off are you Jay I am getting closer to final assembly and dyno time. Just need lifters and rockers and pushrods  when I am to the point where I can measure them.

[jayb]

I'm thinking two more weekends and I ought to be done.  Unfortunately this weekend I've had a bunch of stuff to do for work, so that has tied me up some, but I've still been making some progress.  No promises on this, though; when they're finished, that's when they'll be finished 

[fe66comet]

Its not Done till you say it's done like Brookstone's sour cream LOL. Not in that big of a hurry. I would imagine it will take some time to produce a set as you are not set up for production work.

[jayb]

Finally got the right side adapters finished up last night.  I ended up making some fairly serious modifications to the design to make the parts more machinable, but I'm very pleased with the results; they really look good.  I have both adapters (the left side plain and with the power steering brackets) finished up now.  Here is a photo showing the two parts; the one on the right is used with the power steering brackets, but there is a bolt on L bracket not shown in the first couple of photos.  Sorry for the yellowish cast to the photos, the fluorescent lights in my shop will do that sometimes:







Here's a couple pictures of the adapter that can be used with power steering, with the L bracket bolted on:







Next are three shots of the power steering version of the adapter mocked up on the engine. In these photos I have the #16 AN fitting adapter installed on the CVR pump, and a 45 degree hose end screwed onto that.  It clears without any trouble:









In a previous post on this thread Earl had mentioned a Dayco 70782 hose as a potential lower radiator hose to fit this combination.  I picked one of those up through Summit Racing, and test fit it on the water pump tonight using the short 1 1/2" inlet fitting I had purchased earlier.  I cut off the first bend in the Dayco hose and stuck it on there, and it looks like it may work pretty well.  The only issue is that it does contact the ear of the fuel pump mount on the timing cover when its installed, but I don't  think this would be a big deal; it doesn't seem like it could collapse the hose or anything.  Here's some photos of the pump with this hose installed:







Basically the left side adapters are finished up at this point.  This weekend I'm going to try to get back to the right side adapters, make some tweaks to the design and the cnc programs, and see if I can get at least one of those finished also.  I decided to bite the bullet and buy some 4" X 4" aluminum bar to machine the right side adapter with the alternator mounts; this way I don't have to machine a separate bracket for one of the three holes, I can make the whole adapter out of a single block.  Also, without the required bolt holes for the bracket  I can take some of the material in that area away, and this will allow room to put the water inlet on the right side of the pump if that is desired.  I'll try to post another progress update sometime Sunday.

[afret]

Looks great.  Thanks for all the hard work.

[sixty9cobra]

I might be me but that PS bracket looks funny to me. What car is that off of? Im at work so I can't go look at mine. I could be wrong maybe its the lack of the cast iron lower hose nipple.

[fetorino]

You're getting really talented with that machine Jay

[390 Cougar Conv]

Truly an art of it's own.  An Jay your the artist!!! Clifford

[jayb]

I might be me but that PS bracket looks funny to me. What car is that off of? Im at work so I can't go look at mine. I could be wrong maybe its the lack of the cast iron lower hose nipple.

That's the bracket that was on my '69 Mach 1 when I got it.  It looks the same as the one for Rob's Torino.  Maybe not the same as the one for a Galaxie or truck, but I assume that the Galaxies and trucks use the same mounting position on the water pump castings, so the adapters should still fit the factory brackets. 

[fe66comet]

Here are my truck brackets.

[jayb]

Thanks for those pics, looks like the adapters will work on the truck brackets with no issues.

[Chad D]

I notice there is no gasket on the timing cover, will your setup necessitate an RTV only seal to avoid interference?

[fe66comet]

From all the pumps listed on the Napa pro link site I could not find any part number variance per application. So I would guess one size fits all unlike Chevy with long, short, clockwise and counter rotation.

[jayb]

I notice there is no gasket on the timing cover, will your setup necessitate an RTV only seal to avoid interference?

No, there is plenty of space between the pump and the timing cover, like 1/4" or more.  Even a thick gasket will pose no problems.

Edit:  Forgot about the gap between the water pump inlet and the timing cover, which isn't that large, but a standard thickness timing cover gasket won't cause a problem.  Also, there is no gasket between the water pump adapters and the block, so if a gasket is used there, it would compensate for the thickness of the timing cover gasket.  If you use the O-ring, then you will lose the timing cover gasket thickness in clearance.  Again, should be no problem, because there is some extra room there.