1969 Torino(?) Cobra Rebuild

[jayb]

The Ford 31 spline axles I had before had those sleeves.
 
https://www.mustangsetc.com/9-31-spline-rear-axle-seal-sleeve/

http://www.boss302.com/smf/index.php?topic=40857.0

Wow, that is very interesting.  Maybe the driver's side axle in this car is just missing the sleeve.  I just ran upstairs to look at the stock axles from my 69 R code Mach 1, and they both have those sleeves.  I had test fit the seal on both axles, and it was tighter on the one with the sleeve but it was making contact with the one with no sleeve.  I think I might order one of those sleeves, pull that axle back out, and see if it can be pressed on.  Thanks for that info, Earl!

[jayb]

Are you going to keep it Red ??... looks like a fun project , I like the fastback Torino's best

Red was the factory color and I'm going to keep it that way.  Also keep the interior black.

[afret]

The sleeve needs to be removed to put new bearings on so I wonder if that axle had the bearing replaced and the sleeve wasn't put back on?

[Landlubberatsea]

Hi Jay, could you please tell me the part no for that Wilwood front disc kit? I would like to upgrade the front discs on my 68 Torino as well and I reckon what is good for mr Brown is plenty good for me

[Kirk Morgan]

When we had a machine shop we considered those sleeves to be crush sleeves. They helped to keep the bearing in place.

Kirk

[jayb]

Hi Jay, could you please tell me the part no for that Wilwood front disc kit? I would like to upgrade the front discs on my 68 Torino as well and I reckon what is good for mr Brown is plenty good for me

It's Wilwood part number 140-13476.

[427Fastback]

Nice stuff Jay...now I may have missed a few things quick reading it all but was the dif tag still attached ??.Also I have done  dozens of disc brake conversions and power to manual brake conversions...The disc brake pedal is about 2 1/2 to 1 pedal ratio,the manual pedal is about 7 to 1 if I remember correct..Huge mechanical advantage with the manual pedal.......

[jayb]

Yes, I still have the diff tag, here's the picture that was posted in the original thread on this car in the classifieds. 




That's interesting about the pedal ratio, I will have to try to measure that on this car.  One thing about that on this car is that the bracket in the engine compartment that the master cylinder is bolted to has a 2:1 ratio, but in the wrong direction for manual brakes.  In other words, 1/2" of travel of the rod coming through the firewall results in 1" of travel for the master cylinder pushrod.  Wouldn't surprise me if Ford used the same pedal on manual and power brake cars, but just eliminated the bracket on the manual steering cars.  We'll see how it behaves when I get it on the road...

[Heo]

The ones without Booster i have seen have the master
directly on the fire wall ....

[Barry_R]

Did not change the pedal on mine.
Did not know about that pedal ratio stuff when I pitched the booster 20 or so years ago.
Just knew that it was in the damn way when I was lashing the valves.

[jayb]

Heo, thanks, that makes sense.  Barry, if I'm correct about this, since you mounted yours directly to the firewall you got a better ratio, probably the same ratio that any manual brake setup would have.  Mine will have half that ratio due to that bracket and the associated linkage.  Might have to start doing right leg presses 

[427Fastback]

You may be right about the way it was done in those cars and I am not familiar with it.I have only done Mustangs .

[Heo]

I think you just use the lower set of bolts for the mastercyl
the two upper just bolts the pedal assembly to firewall

[Landlubberatsea]

That is correct Heo. At least if you use a MC from a Maverick like I did when I went manual. No changes to pedal but had to buy an adjustable rod from Scott Drake. Brakes are better now than with booster and little vacuum but I still don't think I would manage to lock them on a dirt road

[jayb]

Thanks for the picture, that helps me visualize the stock setup a little better...