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Would you or someone you know buy a manifold base similar to the old PSE unit for $395?

No interest
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Maybe someday
25 (26.6%)
Would seriously consider it for my next FE intake purchase
25 (26.6%)
Definitely would purchase one
43 (45.7%)

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LargeRickhead66

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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2012, 03:00:10 PM »
Hi; New to the forum. I joined so I could reply to this "marketing demand" post. Since you have discovered that production costs will exceed your earlier projected price, I just wanted you to know that I will buy at least one at $395. Seems like a bargain still....
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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2012, 04:20:27 PM »
i would be very interested.
Being a aussie id be keen to run a CHI intake..
They seem to be very popular down here.
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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #47 on: August 16, 2012, 08:21:28 PM »
Well that would be interesting, a Chi intaked FE?
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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #48 on: August 16, 2012, 09:13:07 PM »
I need to buy one of those CHI intakes and see about making it fit.  I have actually picked up a couple of Edelbrock single planes for the Yates style Cleveland heads, and they aren't close to fitting the normal 351C pattern.  However, my intake adapter has enough meat so that if necessary it could be specially machined to fit a manifold like that, if that is the direction that someone wanted to go.  So, no reason the CHI intakes couldn't work the same way.
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2012, 04:58:26 AM »
JayB. Jay how are the manifolds coming. Also would be interested in buying one. Rick L.

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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2012, 08:57:49 AM »
Progess has stalled since the Drag Week thrash began, but the CAD work is essentially complete.  Next step is to get the patterns made, and then have the castings poured.  That should be happening in the October -November time frame.
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #51 on: September 08, 2012, 11:29:47 PM »
I am very interested in a PSE intake base. I think this is a strong option for me rathern then a "normal 2x4" upgrade set up for my galaxie.  While a 2x4 is cool liking, I really like the 351C intake option...  If i spent a little more on this intake, i would get a neat set-up and would not have to fuss with tuning two carburetors which is not the simplest for a novice like me.  I would really like one of these on my 428 i want to re-build.

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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #52 on: September 16, 2012, 10:37:46 PM »
Hi all,  This is my first post........I signed up so I could put my 2 cents worth in on this intake idea.  I was saving up my pennies back in the early 80' to buy a PSE intake for my GT-A Mustang when I had to sell the car for quick cash.
  I thought  it was a great idea back the and still do.......only now instead of just 351C intakes only........why not Weber adapters? or Hilbourn injectors? Cross Ram side draft Webers.....and,  since that old Edelbrock F68 intake performed so well in the Great Intake Comparo why not a six carb log manifold for Hot Rod guys?.......The PSE  intake base is  kind of a blank canvas.........MP
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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #53 on: September 17, 2012, 10:52:49 AM »
Hi Jay...

Noob here...  I think this manifold is a great idea... Not to be a downer, but are there patents on the PSE made intake? If so, I hope all is taken care of. This adapter is a good example if "If you build it, they will buy" product. 

PSE still supports a website, and the date is fresh..
 http://testsite0.sharepoint.com/Pages/PSEEngines.aspx

I would imagine yours would be different application of an old good idea. I wouldn't mind seeing an adapter intake that would accept 351W manifolds, as well as the NASCAR Yates intake, etc.. A Blower adapter might be neat, too

Can't wait to see your product!! 8)

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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #54 on: September 17, 2012, 12:03:34 PM »
Thanks for the info on that web site, I had no idea that they were still around.  FYI patents expire after 17 years, and that manifold has been around for a lot longer than that.  So I don't think there are any patent issues to worry about.  I've also done a patent search and found nothing current.

Since the 351W intakes have a water jacket passage, I doubt that they would fit on the adapter.  Just getting all the various 351C intakes to fit will be a challenge; with all the high port versions of the 351C heads out there, many of the adapters will have to be custom machined  to fit a specific intake.  This limits the 351C manifold interchangeability, of course, which is one appeal of the intake adapter.  Some of the advantages will remain, of course...
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #55 on: September 17, 2012, 12:09:10 PM »
kewl...

On that website, there is an FE in his showroom with those neat-o clear valve covers, and sporting the intake adapter..  :D

While searching, I found an obit from 2007 of a daughter of a Paul Bedioan that was killed by a car. I don't know if it is the same Paul. If it is, My condolences go out to him.  :-\  It also shows an inactive business registration from that same area..

I purchased some pushrods and guideplate from him back in 1983 for a 429cj I was working on. Ordered them by snail-mail, talked to him on the phone, too.
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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2012, 12:16:07 PM »
That is cool stuff, but its a really old photo; I doubt that the location where it was taken still exists.  They aren't showing those items as products they have available on the web site.
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #57 on: September 17, 2012, 12:36:16 PM »
While searching, I found an obit from 2007 of a daughter of a Paul Bedioan that was killed by a car. I don't know if it is the same Paul. If it is, My condolences go out to him.  :-\  It also shows an inactive business registration from that same area..

I purchased some pushrods and guideplate from him back in 1983 for a 429cj I was working on. Ordered them by snail-mail, talked to him on the phone, too.

Yes, that was Paul's daughter.  A very tragic event.
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2012, 07:25:23 AM »
Jay,
     Just curious on the status of the PSE-style intake adapter project. Also there may not be enough room, but have you looked at the possibility of "port inserts" that could be changed when switching between 4V & 2V Cleveland intakes without changing the adapter and breaking the water jacket when using the same heads? Just a thought, but probably more trouble than it's worth.
Thanks, Pat.

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Re: Market Demand for a new version of the PSE-style intake adapter?
« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2012, 08:15:01 AM »
I'll be posting updates on this project under a Member Projects thread, here:

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=683.0

As of right now, I still can't say that the design is finished.  I have a meeting with the designer next Tuesday that I hope will wrap things up for good, and then it is off to the pattern shop.

Also, to answer your original question, I have not considered using port inserts, and would agree that this would probably be more trouble than its worth.
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Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC