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turbohunter

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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2013, 03:12:45 PM »
Got the block and 1U crank back from QMP.
The crank mags good and verified the stroke at 3.980.
All the surfaces are good.
The block mags good.
The bores are 4.07.
Now for the hard part, the sonic check.
Everything looked good but number 1 has some .100 areas and they're on the thrust side.
So, theory time gentlemen.
As it sits now with this crank it's a 414.
With a 4.25 kit in it a 443 but I already have a nice crank.
I'm leaning towards making this a "budgetish" (yeah right) 414/415 with a good set of heads and run it.
After all I still need to learn more and if I blow it up I'm not gonna be tooooo upset (again, yeah right)
So theorize away gents.
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


jayb

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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2013, 09:32:43 PM »
So, it's already .020" over and it is at about .100" in some areas?  That means it probably started around .110".  I think I would run the block with a minimum overbore.

The 3.98 stroke crank will be easier on the thrust sides of the bores, but not THAT much easier than the 4.25" crank.  To me, the question is how much power do you want to make?  If you want to stick with 400 HP or less, I'd stay with the smaller throw; if you want more, I'd go with the stroker crank.   JMO...
Jay Brown
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- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2013, 11:29:11 PM »
I think a wise man once told me, "more is good".
Smart guy.
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #33 on: August 16, 2013, 07:01:35 PM »
Deep into the part of the build that keeps the washing machine going.
Been doing a lot of leaf and garbage cleaning up in the cowl.
And got into the meat of pan replacement today.
Gonna take it slow so I don't get crazy.
Have some nice subframe connectors to install. I'm going to make up some plating to spread the load on each end.
Also thinking about a four point roll bar to tie both sides together. Or maybe do that by connecting each side under the car.
Still trying to find a decent block to build on.

Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2013, 02:23:59 PM »
Never ceases to amaze me how much crap ends up in there.

Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #35 on: August 26, 2013, 10:51:03 AM »
Woohoo, found a block.
Drove down to El Cajon from LA yesterday and bought a 428 C scratch.
Aug. 27 '68 date.
No casting code.
X mark in valley.
Barrels measure 4.168ish, so probably .40 over at 4.17.
Reinforcing webs.
Sonic checked and magged. Couple low spots between cylinders .87 to 94. The rest is between .206 to 150.
In the pic, do you guys know what these numbers are? Seems to me I read it somewhere but can't find my resource again.
Edit
Just drill bit tested the block.
11/64 would fit.
It is the best looking water jacket I have ever seen (granted, not as many as most of you). Very clean.
I may sonic test it again but am inclined not to worry about the "thin" spots.
BTW
It has a W above the date code can't find what that is yet.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2013, 07:14:13 PM by turbohunter »
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #36 on: August 26, 2013, 09:05:23 PM »
My wag would be a machine shop stamping.
Probably been through a few shops over the years.
I've stamped lots of junk.

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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #37 on: July 19, 2014, 06:44:04 PM »
Well since I'm waiting for things on my 445.
I thought I'd get back on the Fairlane and heave ho a bit.
Lots of rust to repair.
After rebuilding the cowl in my mustang I'm not skeered to jump into the Fairlane.
Different anatomy underneath but basically the same.
First pic is my look see hole and where I though I could make the cut. I was wrong.
Found more rust and had to take more out.
Body is supported. No movement detected. Seems to be pretty solid.
Except of course for the vent area.
The other side is not rusty at all, which is why I decided not to take the whole cowl out.







Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2014, 06:50:47 PM »
I'm also re thinking the engine that'll go in this car.
I have a 428 that I was going to put in it.
But I live right down the street from BBM and I can afford one of those blocks.
I'd love to throw the 428 into my T bird with an EFI deal. That's my dd.
I'm in no hurry,,,,,,,obviously.
Just having fun.
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2014, 11:49:21 PM »
I hate rust repair, and I admire you for tackling it.  As you know, I have one rust repair project that has been sitting half done for about 10 years... :-[
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #40 on: July 20, 2014, 09:47:28 AM »
I hate rust repair, and I admire you for tackling it.  As you know, I have one rust repair project that has been sitting half done for about 10 years... :-[

I'd be happy to take that old nasty, rusty piece of junk off your hands ;) jk

Thanks Jay
Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #41 on: July 20, 2014, 12:11:12 PM »
I'm also re thinking the engine that'll go in this car.

Uh oh! I do that WAY too much :)

Ditto on the rust. I hate the stuff. Repaired enough of it when I was younger that I try to avoid anything with it now. Still, for a Fairlane, that doesn't look too bad compared to most project cars I've seen.
Doug Smith


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2014, 10:37:05 PM »
Had a great car day today.
Went over to QMP and picked up my mod motor that had been cleaned so that I can fab some motor mounts for the Mustang.
And got back on rust patrol on the Fairlane.
Since no one makes the cowl sheet metal you have to build your own.
I know it may seem crazy but I really enjoy this kind of work.
It's very "zen" if you know what I mean.
Kinda like when you're up fishing in the mountains and your kid gets a big tangle you have to fix.
No sweat 'cause it 's beautiful and you're fishing with your kid.
Anyway, I enjoy metal work and anything you have to take your time with.
Since I work out of a small garage and don't have room for a lot of fab tools I've developed my own little way to get compound bends.
Cut, bend, weld.
It also makes it good and strong since you can overlap. Since it's in the cowl, no harm no foul. ;D

Marc
'61 F100 292Y
'66 Mustang Injected 428
'66 Q code Country Squire wagon


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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2014, 06:41:23 AM »
Tools or not, looks better than what I could do! :)

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Re: Giggling like a school girl
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2014, 07:24:41 PM »
A big project by any yardstick...bringing this back to life.  Good luck with it.
Michael