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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by blykins on September 12, 2026, 04:32:23 PM »
If you're planning on using a 428 block, a 462-ish size engine with unported factory heads will do well to make 1 hp/ci. 

A TFS headed 462 with a Performer RPM, hydraulic roller, on pump gas, with 14" of manifold vacuum will make about 100hp more than that.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by Mark Bliss on September 12, 2026, 04:26:40 PM »
Well yeah, that's why I knew even way back then to choose a cam with more exhaust duration. And I know we still choose cam lobes based on some of this. And I know there are other benefits besides flow to a modern cylinder head design. Combustion chamber being high on the list.
But how much potential loss... 15-20? 30-50?
I know... it depends. Just spit balling thoughts.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by blykins on September 12, 2026, 04:25:58 PM »
Here's what you have to look forward to:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwewni8GDeI
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by blykins on September 12, 2026, 04:18:49 PM »
Intake/exhaust flow ratio data is still very important.  Camshafts are ground around that.

With that being said, even with an "undesirable" header, the TFS is going to be way ahead of any factory LR or MR cylinder head, even with work done to them. 
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by Mark Bliss on September 12, 2026, 04:14:32 PM »
My mistake. I thought I saw an AFR FE head listing somewhere.

But OK, related question-
We have often dwelled on intake to exhaust flow ratio data. "Back in the day" it was often described as a common FE weakness and we often tried various ways to crutch them up...
Some modern builders have downplayed giving it too much attention.
But even more to the point, how much effect does putting these things in a Mustang with shock towers and headers with sharp turns at the port exit...
I guess my point is obvious. I feel there was very little benefit to the port work I did back in the late 70's when I was young and still breaking the chronic "more is better" habit. These 67 GT heads are pretty, but one of many minor mistakes.
This time around I want to research and get good value and a well matched balanced combination.
So good heads. How much money wasted choking with shock tower headers? The things look good with Dyno headers, but... maybe cheaper heads. Or maybe chop those towers out. Yikes. Very unusually solid S code car.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by blykins on September 12, 2026, 03:50:33 PM »
AFR doesn’t make an FE head.

Trick Flow is the absolute best bang for the buck.  Will support 700 hp out of the box with no work.  Come assembled with quality parts including CHE valve guides, PAC springs, etc.

Will work on small bore blocks.

Cast in the good ole USA.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by My427stang on September 12, 2026, 03:34:14 PM »
AFR doesn't make an FE head. 

TFS is a little more expensive but very easy to make big numbers with less cam.  Edelbrock are basically stock med riser/CJ performance but lighter, there are others out there but based of Chinese casting.  25.5 years in the military, can't do it, won't give them a nod. South Korean stuff, maybe, but since we have very good American made stuff I lean that way
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FE Technical Forum / Re: hp limit on A scratch block
« Last post by My427stang on September 12, 2026, 03:32:08 PM »
I have some A's out there with lots of miles at 550-585 HP.  No issues

Cylinder thickness needs to be enough, that number seems to be different with everyone, but A's are some of the worst for core shift, so have it mapped.  C's are usually the best

Where I really see issues are often #2 and #4 mains cracking at the main bolt holes and almost always caps loose in the registers. 

As Brent said, got to be diligent.  Pay for the sonic map, mag and pressure test and don't take shortcuts
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FE Technical Forum / Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by Mark Bliss on September 12, 2026, 03:05:48 PM »
Discussion and shared experience please, not debate.

Current up to date info requested. I have followed the market over time, but may be relying on old info.
I know the AFR's are popular. What is the story on the TFS heads? Comparison? Availability?

Specifically, I am soon going to be seeking to update a "hot street/strip" style build, probably hyd. roller. Don't need anything ridiculous. The AFR's look pretty good to me. Need bang for the buck for a modest build.

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FE Technical Forum / Re: How many header bolts are you using on shock tower cars
« Last post by Mark Bliss on September 12, 2026, 02:47:39 PM »
I guess I am a glutton for punishment.
I have installed/removed headers on my Mustang multiple times over the years. 3 different brands (I dont remember the names except the current Hooker Super Comps)
First was removal of the TRI-Y style that was on it when I bought it in the mid-70's. I then installed a set when I rebuilt the engine since it had been sitting in an impound lot for 9 years with the hood off and intake stolen.
I had transmission problems and had that thing together and apart too many times...
Got frustrated and decided the fix was to convert the C6 to a top loader. Well dont you know those headers were auto only. So along came the Hookers. Had those on and off a few times. Last time to address gasket issues.
I found the sharp edges of the weld bead at the tubes readily cut the gaskets and caused premature leaks. I "engineered" a fix and they stayed on for a long time.
I think I put in all the bolts in every time. GT heads.
I did the "custom bent" trick, and also ground the box end of my special wrench to thin it out a bit. The special sauce was before installation I located the tight spots where the wrench really wouldnt fit and very lightly dimpled the tube around the bolt area so the modified box end would fit on and off the bolt for final stage tightening. This helped a lot, but it's still a pain... (see my previous post on avoiding doing it in the car)

Edit- I just remembered the second set were from an obsolete brand Casler or similar. They were a sub-brand of a better known manufacturer.
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