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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1967 fastback 485
« Last post by Stangman1 on September 13, 2026, 10:37:53 PM »
It was muggy Saturday. Cool in morning but by race time my car was slowing down. I’m just glad we had a good time and didn’t brake anything. But I think there’s some time in the right converter. When I put new motor in I had a 3-3200 stall converter and ordered a 4200 converter for new camshaft. When it was still a dog off the line I assumed it was the tranny and got it done. It never occurred to me the converter would be bad. And my dizzy being off a little. Well I guess ya never know.
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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1967 fastback 485
« Last post by cjshaker on September 13, 2026, 10:15:55 PM »
Joe, timing problems aside, how was the air there? The humidity here has been kind of bad, and Beaver Springs usually isn't much better from the times I've been there. And don't forget that that track is all uphill. Don't guys usually run 1-2 tenths slower there? Maybe it wasn't as bad as you think? Congrats on a PB.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by cjshaker on September 13, 2026, 10:00:45 PM »

Here's one thing that everyone should appreciate about me: I'm not brand loyal. 
As for how the new [BBM] heads perform, I'm good with not knowing.


Umm, surely you can see the flaw in those 2 statements? Being an engine builder, you're good with not knowing?

As far as the "proof", every major engine builder readily admits that dyno numbers are for bragging rights, and running on a dyno is for tuning and verifying that everything is okay with a build. The only "proof" is on a track. On the street, it doesn't really matter much. 500hp will kill you just as quick as 550hp. In fact, on the street, the more HP you're pushing, the faster you will get yourself into bad trouble if you don't handle it correctly, which means you'll never be using the full potential of 550hp, especially on street tires.

So for "proof", here's your chance, Brent. List up those class wins with your FE engines. Any EMC? Drag Week? SS and/or S class wins? I mean, besides your 15th place in the camshaft challenge? Don't be shy.

As for the OP, my stock stroke 427 uses untouched MR heads, has more HP than I can put down on the street (497) and runs me right at 11.50 on the strip, with a less than optimized set-up. That's right at the limit of requiring a rollbar. Pretty much any modern FE head will make a very nice hot street/strip combo right out of the box. I wouldn't overthink it too much, unless you want the numbers for bragging rights, or you don't mind making your car more "strip" than "street", to take advantage of that power. There's a big tradeoff when you do that.
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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 69 fastback
« Last post by 6667fan on September 13, 2026, 09:30:51 PM »
Nice work Phil.  What was cut off to get into Quick 8 this year?
Was it you who said hello at Lebanon on a Wednesday night a few weeks back? I have the black on black Fairlane.
If so, I apologize for not recognizing you.
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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 1967 fastback 485
« Last post by 6667fan on September 13, 2026, 09:26:08 PM »
Alright, Alright, Alright!
Congrats on getting into 10s
33* total might be all you need with those heads.
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FE Technical Forum / Re: How many header bolts are you using on shock tower cars
« Last post by sixty9cobra on September 13, 2026, 07:23:53 PM »
4 bolts per port Hooker Headers in a mustang.
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FE Technical Forum / Oil drain back
« Last post by Urgefor on September 13, 2026, 07:20:29 PM »
So I was having some fun with rocker geometry, pushrod length, etc. and so forth. I decided to put the oil pan on and run the pump with a drill to keep main, rod and cam bearing well lubricated with the amount of crank rotation I was doing.  Lots of oil remained on top of the engine with the brass fittings meant to direct drain back to the front and rear of the block. After looking things over a bit I kept coming back to the same question.  Why not add a hole to allow the oil to drain back into the distributor shaft area?  Pic attached with the area I'm referring to circled in read.  As always, any thoughts are appreciated.
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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: FE reunion
« Last post by mustangPhil on September 13, 2026, 06:23:23 PM »
I made it to the reunion, and somehow qualified for the quick 8. I think clutch got hurt at Lebanon but I didnt know how bad, won 1 round & then really hurt things in round 2, but it was fun
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Drag Strip Results for FE Powered Vehicles / Re: 69 fastback
« Last post by mustangPhil on September 13, 2026, 06:17:32 PM »
made it to the reunion . and qualified for the quick 8. but hurt thre clutch & went out in 2 round
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FE Technical Forum / Re: Let's talk cylinder heads
« Last post by CaptCobrajet on September 13, 2026, 04:49:15 PM »
I don’t know if I have ever used any aftermarket block, other than a Shelby, that didn’t have something that I had to correct, repair, or massage someplace.  None of the iron blocks have been perfect.  I find minor things wrong with almost all of them, including the Shelbys.  They do send some that have zero issues.  I didn’t realize pipe plug depth was to be considered.  I have had BBMs with plugs too deep, and plugs too shallow.  Also, be mindful of the chamfer on the thrust main bore.  These are things that I just consider part of the job.  We pressure test all blocks, new or used, and visually inspect everything.  We fill the block with water, and then pressurize. 

I remember years ago, Doug telling me about a block that had some core shift and drill through right where you describe.  He sent me a few pictures of it.  I don’t know what ever happened to it.  It could have made it into circulation some way I suppose. 

That iron block production is not easy for any of the folks who have done it.  We should be glad to get them, and if there is no other option, we just have to fix them, if possible, no matter the brand.  The FE resurgence has been supported over the years by Dove, Shelby, Genesis, BBM, and Pond.  Currently, for different and unrelated reasons, iron blocks are scarce.  Some will come through eventually.  For my use, I will deal with the minor issues, and if a block has no major flaws, I will use them and be glad to get them, regardless of the manufacturer.  I’ve been using the various aftermarket offerings for about 30 years now, and I guess it’s been so long since I assumed anything was okay on them, we just don’t think twice, and look at everything to start with.

Sort of in response to Mr. Lykins comments………when BBM’s inventory was running low, pre Covid, and he was going to cast more, Doug came to me about updating the ports.  I was not involved in the original creation.  I made new stuff, verified it, tested it, and then sent it to him.  Fast forward through tough times everyone had making things in the early ‘20s………we have had the new castings for about 2-1/2 years.  He wanted to improve performance.  He already had great casting quality, so here we are.  We didn’t originally plan for me to distribute the heads, but we were already doing the finish work, so it just evolved into that.

This is a free country.  We can all use whatever we want to, or work with whatever the customer brings.  Sometimes folks just don’t know what they don’t know.  I see what I would call inaccurate information posted from time to time. Sometimes I post my thoughts.  Most times I read and move on.

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