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AlanCasida

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Header build...All done!!!!!!
« on: January 18, 2021, 06:45:49 PM »
Header flanges almost done
« Last Edit: February 25, 2021, 08:33:57 PM by AlanCasida »
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Re: Header build
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2021, 08:31:32 PM »
I usualy chuck something up in the lathe and make it the right diameter
Never thought about that ::) :-[
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Re: Header build
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2021, 10:55:00 PM »
I never thought of a trailer hitch ball, but used a piece of bar stock I taper-turned to the right size. First headers I ever built were for the blown 312 in my '54 Customline. (The welds were hell for strong, but I have to confess, somewhat lumpy. :))

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Re: Header build
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2021, 10:57:12 PM »
Great idea!
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Re: Header build
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2021, 10:36:29 AM »
Perfect solution!
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Re: Header build
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2021, 02:58:43 PM »
I agree, well done Alan.
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Re: Header build
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2021, 06:10:53 PM »
Stub tubes are a waste of time unless you are making step headers that step an inch form the flange. Otherwise that is just an extra weld that doesn't need to be there. Just shape the end of the header tube to fit the flanges. On most of the headers i've build the tube needs to start bending too close to the flange to even use a stub.
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Re: Header build
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2021, 08:23:09 PM »
Quote from: TomP on January 22, 2021, 06:10:53 PM
Stub tubes are a waste of time unless you are making step headers that step an inch form the flange. Otherwise that is just an extra weld that doesn't need to be there. Just shape the end of the header tube to fit the flanges. On most of the headers i've build the tube needs to start bending too close to the flange to even use a stub.

I tried that and I could tell right away it was not going to work for me. As Harry Callahan once said "a man's got to know his limitations." I may give it a try again. Those stubs are only tacked in place for that very reason. 
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Re: Header build
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2021, 08:34:59 PM »
I prefer the stub tubes if there is room for them the little time that weld takes
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Re: Header build
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2021, 09:28:54 AM »
Funny how we come up with these ideas when we're up against having to solve a problem! A press would work well too, once you have the ovaled tubes tacked into the flanges and maybe give you a little more control over the process. 
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Re: Header build
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2021, 12:09:38 AM »
Quote from: BruceS on January 23, 2021, 09:28:54 AM
Funny how we come up with these ideas when we're up against having to solve a problem! A press would work well too, once you have the ovaled tubes tacked into the flanges and maybe give you a little more control over the process.
I thought about that but this way worked out fine.
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Re: Header build
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2021, 10:56:09 AM »
Nice swaging tool, Alan! I've got a few different sizes of tow ball for fixing various header building challenges. I gave em 1" pipe handles. Closeted header building advocate here btw.   ;) 16ga tubing forms nice with a little heat. 20ga becomes thin in spots. I try to not use it if possible.

Stubs are the way to go if you have the room. They make a few more ponies too.

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Re: Header build
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2021, 03:13:53 PM »
It would make more with the front two tubes angled rearward and the rear two tubes angled forward. Following the shape of the port.
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Re: Header build
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2021, 07:21:08 PM »
I started on the driver's side today. I ordered a header modeling kit from Ice Engine Works which I think is going to help mocking up the tube routing dramatically. It includes snap together straight and angled pieces. It was a little pricy but in the end I think it will pay off in reduced rework plus I can probably resell it and recoup some of my money.
https://www.icengineworks.com/
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Re: Header build
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2021, 06:09:35 AM »
Did you get enough pieces to do both sides at once ?
Will each piece spin in the joining piece or are they pinned ?
Total cost of kit ?
« Last Edit: January 29, 2021, 06:11:36 AM by wowens »
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