Crane Fireball 294 solid cam

[427John]

I ordered a Holman Moody AA cam..  I have an original 61 390 375 cam I am getting measured.. If I had a real 352 360 cam i would measure that too and compare

What is the id code on the 390HP cam?We always assumed the 60-61 used the same cam because we had never found reference to a C1AE numbered solid lifter cam,but that doesn't mean there wasn't one.

[RJP]

I ordered a Holman Moody AA cam..  I have an original 61 390 375 cam I am getting measured.. If I had a real 352 360 cam i would measure that too and compare

What is the id code on the 390HP cam?We always assumed the 60-61 used the same cam because we had never found reference to a C1AE numbered solid lifter cam,but that doesn't mean there wasn't one.

The 60 and 61 cams were the same according to the Ford Performance Handbook by Ray Brock. [1962] In 1962 for the 406 another cam was issued with same lift/duration but a minor timing change. Quote: "The camshaft used for the 60 HP 352 was p/n C0AE 6250 B. This camshaft was also used in the 61 HP 390 and with a very slight timing change which required a new part number is used in the 62 406 engine. The new part number is C2AZ 6250 A and this cam also supersedes the C0AE cam mention.

[427John]

That makes sense,I'm still curious if it was enough of a change to warrant a different id code on the cam.I still think the C3AZ-6250-D 63 406 cam is the same grind as the AA just on the older thrust button core.It would fit with the release of the dual quad intake and long exhaust manifolds for the late race 406's,as shown in the same Ford Performance Handbook.

[RJP]

That is entirely possible as the C3-AA thrust plate cam [306* dur] may have been used in the late 62-early 63 406 drag race engine. That engine was suppose to be a 12 to 1 c/r - 2 x 4 on a "over-under" L/R manifold using the 540/550 cfm Holleys. [FoMoCo carb suffix "C"] Was built for, as I understand the story, the 6 lightweight 62 Galaxies built for drag racing.  I could be wrong as I was only 12 y/o when those were built. FYI: The C3AZ-AA cam has 306* duration, .500" lift, 78* overlap. Timing: IO 40 btdc, IC 86* abdc, EO 88* bbdc, EC 38* atdc. [Info from the Muscle Parts Staged Performance book.]

[427John]

Thats the way I understood it too,it gets fuzzy because all 6 of the 62 lightweight chassis were recycled(rebodied and updated with 427's)into some of the 63's,one of Dick Brannans 2 63 LW's was his old 62 LW recycled,from what I understand that one got rebuilt to the 62 LW specs and is still around.One of his 63 LW's evidently was setup as a southern match racer(don't know if it was the recycled 62 or the new build 63) and supposedly got one of the 483 inch motors they were testing in the event Nascar didn't go with the 7 liter limit.

[475fetoploader]

I just read a book about Dick Brannan, that was cool.

[troublemaker427]

They built 11 1962 lightweight Galaxies.  Six of the eleven were converted to 1963 models with the body swap on the '62 frame.  Brannan's '63 823 was a converted '62.  824 was a standard 1963 lightweight Galaxie and was his backup car and driven by other people at times.