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dozz302

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How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« on: July 16, 2020, 08:56:54 PM »
Just wondering if anyone has been racing with these rods and their story. Horse power - what RPM, etc. Thanks in advance.

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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2020, 05:56:59 AM »
They are rated to 700+  350.00 is a good price for new rods.  I am running a set in my 427. I have seen far too many stock rod failures of the past few years. Even Le Mans rods.  Just not worth the risk. 50+ years of being beat on isn't worth the risk.
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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2020, 08:13:20 AM »
There are a couple people on here who absolutely hate them. All I can tell you is my experience with them. When I first built the 427 for my Mach, about 21 years ago, there weren't a lot of affordable options for aftermarket rods for the FE. I bought a set of their H beam rods, and they have been in the engine since then. While I've only been racing the past few years, they have maybe 40 drag strip passes on them, but thousands of street miles, and of course some of those street miles were way harder than the strip passes...lol I haven't had any issues with them.

The 'hatred' towards them seems to be more internet related. A couple stories of rod failures on the internet is all it takes to destroy any rod makers reputation. I personally have not seen any Eagle rod failures spoken of since those early stories some 20 years ago, and who knows the circumstances behind those stories. I do know that there have been lots of guys using them for racing for many years without issues. Having said that, if I were building a new engine today, and planned on racing it regularly, I'd likely go with something else. For a spirited street engine, I don't see any problem with them.
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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2020, 08:22:51 AM »
I can't tell you how many times my Eagle H Beam rods have been past 7000 rpm in my 416 but about every time I've driven it in the last 20 years , still in the engine running great

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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2020, 08:33:01 AM »
I haven't heard of any Eagle rod failures, but have heard of crank failures early on.

In the end, if we are talking 6.49 FE, there aren't a lot of options out there.  If a serious one came in, I'd buy Molnar, but if it's milder, I bet the Eagles will do well.  The difference in the Molnars is about 40-50 grams advertised weight each, which helps in balancing and longevity, but even beyond weight, I trust the Molnar quality much more
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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2020, 08:57:32 AM »
I had a set of Eagle H beams in a 500+ HP 351C.  No issues.  Lost the block after two seasons, sold the rods.  Saw 7000 twice per pass for two years.  Out of the box they were spot on dimensionally.  IIRC, I paid around $550 for the set back then. 

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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2020, 09:20:21 AM »
I have had good luck with dsc motor sports max duty h beam i dont know what brand he starts with.I think most off shore all come from the same place and use different brand names.Eagles seam ok i dont hear any thing bad about them.

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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2020, 09:44:08 AM »
seems like when I bought mine they was around 700.00

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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2020, 10:49:44 AM »
I have had good luck with dsc motor sports max duty h beam i dont know what brand he starts with.I think most off shore all come from the same place and use different brand names.Eagles seam ok i dont hear any thing bad about them.

I haven't tried his, are they still available and decent price?

seems like when I bought mine they was around 700.00

I think Eagle makes a couple of options, per Summit, one is 400 dollar range, one 700.  My guess is bolt differences, but I didn't look closely
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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2020, 11:27:19 AM »
  More than 50% of rod failures are from attempts to weld them to the crank after spinning a bearing. NO rod will survive that regardless of origin , material or design. Most any H beam rod is better than a LeMans rod. "To me" it is important to validate the dimensions on the rod and be sure it has a quality rod bolt . There are counterfit ARP rod bolts out there and big end sizing has been known to change when the bolts are brought up to "proper" torque. Buying a Molnar rod is certainly worth the extra $s. They are THE best offshore rod available unless it comes from Europe.

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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2020, 12:55:03 PM »
I haven't heard of any Eagle rod failures, but have heard of crank failures early on.


The "stories" that I heard, were on the internet, and that was over 20 years ago when I was looking for a set of replacements. The internet was still young back then, and so was I  ;D  I have not seen anything bad about them since that time.
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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2020, 01:00:52 PM »
Local Ford machine shop has used a lot of Eagle rods with Scat crankshafts in SBFs that make well over 600 hp, and years of racing.  I have two Ford engines making ~600 hp with Eagle rods and they seem to keep their dimensions quite well when checked on refresh.  Joe-JDC
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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2020, 01:29:01 PM »
I believe the DSC Max Duty rods are made by RPM.

I used the RPM rods in my blown 427 (454) and they are still in that motor.

RPM was/is the maker of forged 4.25 and 4.375 cranks. They are generally liked but the rods less so. I really don't know why.

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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2020, 01:46:41 PM »
 I went to seminar held by the owner of Scat. He said he buys the highest "grade" rods China makes. A person in the audience questioned his statement. His reply was , "NO rod in China is scrapped . They are simply sold at a lower price". The lower cost rods typically have tooling marks and sharp edges that they "attempt" to cover up with heavier shot peening. This radically changes the material surface hardness from that which was done by the heat treating process. Again H beams are often overkill compared to stock rods and despite flaws , rarely break unless they have "rubber" bolts or poor sizing. In this case you do get what you pay for. If a more expensive rod ( initially) saves replacing bolts and resizing costs , it's cheaper in the long run.

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Re: How strong or good are the Eagle Rods for $350
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2020, 01:57:43 PM »
They are still on his web site dsc motor sports for 385.00 call him i think he is still open.