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AlanCasida

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Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« on: September 01, 2019, 06:25:17 PM »
I was doing some final prep today on the mustang and changed the oil. I decided to cut the oil filter open and I am glad I did (kind of). I found a bunch of copper/brass looking material in it. I pulled the distributor to see if it might have come from the gear but it looked perfect. So I am out.   :(

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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2019, 07:15:04 PM »
Boy, that sucks.  Looks like copper backing from one of the bearings.  Time to pull the pan and check the rods...
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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2019, 07:59:38 PM »
I am glad I caught it when I did. I almost didn't change the oil since I only had about 400 miles and 11 passes on it. Then I almost didn't cut the filter open. But I noticed the last time I drove it the oil pressure was down some from it's normal so that kind of nagged at me. I think I will take a little break from it now.   

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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2019, 11:56:34 PM »
What!!!!!
Oo man what a bummer.
Well I guess better this way than full qarnage at the strip.
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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2019, 08:30:13 AM »
Man, that really sucks. But finding it now beats finding it on side of the raid somewhere!!
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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2019, 10:04:00 AM »
Bummer!  :(
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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2019, 10:33:14 AM »
Ouch! :(

Those look like pretty big pieces. I wonder if its from the thrust bearing as rod bearings usually produce finer particles. Ask me how I know this....................
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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2019, 03:07:22 PM »
Ouch! :(

Those look like pretty big pieces. I wonder if its from the thrust bearing as rod bearings usually produce finer particles. Ask me how I know this....................
That is what I'm thinking, thrust bearing. it didn't knock or anything that would give me a hint something was wrong other than the oil pressure was some lower than normal when hot but I was driving it around in the heat more this year.

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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2019, 05:58:50 PM »
Ouch! :(

Those look like pretty big pieces. I wonder if its from the thrust bearing as rod bearings usually produce finer particles. Ask me how I know this....................
my thoughts exactly, those are chunks. Lucky you cut the filter open, that's spooky looking.

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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2019, 06:47:20 PM »
Sorry Alan, bummer for sure. I hope it’s not that bad. Was excited to follow you during dragweek.

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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2019, 08:03:47 PM »
Have you compared to a new distributor gear?

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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2019, 08:11:53 PM »
No noise?

Seems odd that much copper would be a wrist pin bushing, a blown our thrust bearing, or a regular bearing completely gone and make a lot of noise.

I'd be 100% sure that your bronze gear isn't the cause  (as you toss that junk in the trash anyway LOL)

Maybe check crank thrust from the bottom and see if there is a ton of it.  Loosen your belts and pry the balancer back and forth.

Not that that much getting through the motor is good, but you might get away with a good cleanup.

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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2019, 08:39:58 PM »
The first thing I did was pull the distributor and check the gear. It shows a little wear but not enough to make that much debris and the color of the particles are more coppery looking than the gear too. Here is a pic comparing the gear to a new one.

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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2019, 10:23:50 PM »
I feel your pain. In and out two times in four months with a very expensive new paint job.  My hopes are that it hasn't done any heavy damage and is simple and inexpensive to correct.
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Re: Disaster!!! I am out for Dragweek
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2019, 05:31:10 AM »
Gulp. I just ordered a filter cutter. The last motor cost way to much. Good luck on finding the problem.