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Re: FE Intake Adapter
« Reply #480 on: March 07, 2014, 01:54:29 PM »
Here are some more details on this setup:

- Butterflies are 50mm (about 2") in diameter.

- Runner length from the flange to the top of the airhorn is around 15".  The airhorns can be machined to different lengths to vary that overall runner length somewhat.

- Unfortunately a standard distributor won't fit; either an offset distributor, or a distributorless setup, will be required.

Are you sure that a distributor would not work with this system?  Maybe they can make sure the final drawings would accomodate a stock/MSD style distributor.  Looks great!  Joe-JDC

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Re: FE Intake Adapter
« Reply #481 on: March 07, 2014, 03:30:20 PM »
Would that system still work on the 13001 manifold ?

Well, it would with some modifications.  You'd have to port the 13001 to fit and you'd have a pretty big port mismatch on the inboard side of each port; you might want to fill that for best performance.  You would also have to drill and tap the intake adapter so it had the same bolt pattern as the 13002.  So it could be done, but it would be a lot of screwing around...
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: FE Intake Adapter
« Reply #482 on: March 07, 2014, 03:32:02 PM »

Are you sure that a distributor would not work with this system?  Maybe they can make sure the final drawings would accomodate a stock/MSD style distributor.  Looks great!  Joe-JDC

Well, that's what they told me, and they've got the CAD model.  Maybe you could make one work with some mods, but until you had one of those intakes in your hands, it would be pretty tough to say for sure...
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: FE Intake Adapter
« Reply #483 on: March 08, 2014, 08:11:56 AM »
Maybe a crank trigger- shorty distributor? This one is for a Windsor but maybe a BBF or BBC could be modified. Trouble is they use an unusually wide cap that alone may blow the deal. Just a thought.

http://www.jegs.com/i/MSD-Ignition/121/8378/10002/-1?parentProductId=
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Re: FE Intake Adapter
« Reply #485 on: March 08, 2014, 02:31:21 PM »
Funny you should mention that.  Watch for an upcoming thread...
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: FE Intake Adapter
« Reply #486 on: March 08, 2014, 02:58:02 PM »
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« Reply #487 on: March 08, 2014, 04:47:22 PM »
Funny you should mention that.  Watch for an upcoming thread...

definitely be waiting for this thread :)

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Re: FE Intake Adapter
« Reply #488 on: March 08, 2014, 07:57:19 PM »
I finally found a PSE timing cover last year and was lucky to get a NOS one..It is pretty much obscured by the water pump but between it and the new intake my engine will be much easier to work on...I like the idea of it being redone......Cory.....

Everytime I try and post a pic it tells me my file is to large..I didn't think that rule applied here ??
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« Reply #489 on: March 08, 2014, 09:55:53 PM »

Everytime I try and post a pic it tells me my file is to large..I didn't think that rule applied here ??

That's strange, I don't know why that is happening.  There is no limit on size in the software package that I can see.  Have you tried hosting the pictures on a web site like Photobucket?  I know for sure that you can put any size picture there, and link it to make it show up in the post here.
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: FE Intake Adapter
« Reply #490 on: March 08, 2014, 10:37:08 PM »
I am just importing them off my computer but as I have a photobucket account to put pics on the FE site I will try it here.....This is what I read on my reply page



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« Reply #491 on: March 08, 2014, 11:44:46 PM »
A 2 piece timing cover would be cool. My question is who makes an adjustable (two piece) cam gear, so you can make use of it to advance or retard the cam timing quickly, for fine tuning. Is there one available? I don't see an advantage if you can only adjust the crank gear, like so many timing sets have, and would require removing the damper (I don't think that is the idea?).

At one time, I think Barry was talking about doing some timing sets up with an adjustable cam gear, maybe if he does that, and Jay makes available the two piece cover (casting), we'll be in business?

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« Reply #492 on: March 09, 2014, 05:56:37 AM »
We've done a cam driven distributor already, and used a fabricated "spud" to turn the oil pump.
I've talked to Jay briefly about timing covers, but do not know where he's headed on that project yet.
I "need to get to it" on the adjustable timing set - just have not had the time.

Anybody interested in self adhesive gaskets for oil filter adapters, timing covers, water pumps????

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Re: FE Intake Adapter
« Reply #493 on: March 09, 2014, 12:27:37 PM »
Cloyes makes a timing chain called a Hex-adjust that is adjustable at the cam gear, but it looks like it will only go +/- 6 degrees.  I don't know if it is crank degrees or cam degrees; if it is cam degrees then +/- 6 might be enough.  And I don't know if they are any good, because I've never used one. 

I have a design for a timing chain arrangement that uses steel pins to move the timing, which is more positive than an analog adjustment mechanism like the Hex-adjust or the Danny Bee setup.  But it is just a design at this point...
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: FE Intake Adapter
« Reply #494 on: March 09, 2014, 04:22:49 PM »
From all that I have read, the Cloyes Hex-Adjust has issues with maintaining precise alignment. I have not tried one though. Lunati now seems to be making an adjustable cam gear set-up for the FE that uses a +/-6* cam gear along with a 3 position crank gear for a total of 10* adjustment....

http://www.jegs.com/i/Lunati/638/95105/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1903726174&catargetid=1784159720&cadevice=c&&cagpspn=pla&gclid=CKWBoc-thr0CFchFMgod6BgARQ

But I have not tried it either and have not heard or read any feedback from people who have.

It would be fairly straight forward to have multiple locating pin holes drilled in a cam gear for increased adjustment, but the measurements for the holes would have to be precise and is beyond the average builders ability.
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