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« Reply #45 on: February 08, 2013, 07:51:22 PM »
Even the Windsor along with all other engines were killed in the late 70s with emissions and no compression, the fuel injected Windsors and throttle body Chevy's were gas guzzling dogs. Everything went down hill till the new modular V8s cane out. It was a dismal era of restricted heads, low compression, laden down with smog pumps and restrictive exhaust.

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« Reply #46 on: February 08, 2013, 08:26:33 PM »
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good catch Royce, and Jay...

Actually I am not Royce, just to avoid confusion...but,  I do have a couple XR7's and I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.



GREAT picture, Thor...
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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« Reply #47 on: February 08, 2013, 11:37:38 PM »
Yeah the near bumper scrape is quite impressive. Can't do that in a focus LOL.

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« Reply #48 on: February 09, 2013, 12:34:07 PM »
Yeah the near bumper scrape is quite impressive. Can't do that in a focus LOL.

^^ +1  ;D

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« Reply #49 on: February 09, 2013, 05:51:55 PM »
How about in reverse?  :o

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« Reply #50 on: February 13, 2013, 10:27:40 AM »
Jay, please let me know when the intake adapter plates are ready for sale!  I've been planning on making my own for several years using a Weind intake mating to a 351C 4V...  Any finally bought a mill to do the job!  However, your unit is just what the doctor ordered and may end up buying 2 from you for two separate builds.

I have a goofy idea of using a Weiand 351C-4V tunnel ram with six (yes six) Autolite 2100 1.02's sitting on top of an aluminum box...  in a 64 galaxie...  It may be goofy, but what the hey, I think it may just look goofy enough to be kool!   The 2100's have the front shaved off so that they are "half-moon" with the fuel bowls facing out towards the fenders and three velocity stacks cut in half.

But then with the adapter plate, I can switch setups very quickly to a standard 4-barrel setup!

Also, Are you going to offer gaskets or, is that an "on-your-own" buyer DIY project?

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Tim.

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« Reply #51 on: February 13, 2013, 10:46:08 AM »
Jay, what about offering a "generic" casting and leave it to the buyer to have it machined on his own for his configuration?  That cuts your cost down and, eliminates you having to fit all the various variations.  Figure most are going to be using an  4-v heads and limit the casting to the most likely configurations. 

For an additional cost, then offer a finished manifold that will bolt right in place for a specific setup!

Face it, 30 40 years ago anytime you bought non-oem parts there was always a fair amount of variation in the aluminum castings even fro Edel... and it was up to the buyer to get it to fit right. 

I'm willing to shell out $400 to $500 for the adapter plate (saves me time and trouble) and accept that I will still need to machine it to adapt to my specific application. 

My applications (prior post) - 351C -4C Weiand tunnel-ram and, a 4C- 4-barrel setup. 

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Tim

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« Reply #52 on: February 13, 2013, 10:55:29 AM »
Hi Tim, you can just watch this thread for updates on this project.  I'll be posting here when the intake adapters become available.

As far as gaskets, standard FE and 351C gaskets will work for most of the applications.  If there is a specific application that requires a custom gasket, I will make the gasket available also.  I've had good luck getting custom intake gaskets made at Cometic, so I would probably go that route.

In terms of the raw castings, I may do something like a partially machined version, where the intake faces are machined but the port openings are left as cast, to allow the user to do whatever they want with the ports.  I suppose I could offer a completely unmachined version, but I think that would be a lot of work for somebody to start from scratch, and they would probably end up duplicating a lot of the machining that I would end up doing anyway.  But I can certainly look at those kinds of requirements on a case by case basis.
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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« Reply #53 on: February 13, 2013, 02:30:20 PM »
Believed it or not I do not own a CNC machine or have the knowledge to run it so handing me a rough casting would not help me much. There might be others like me but I am a simple person I guess?

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« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2013, 02:23:01 PM »
So, the pattern shop is making some progress after that check I wrote them  ;D  Here is the master pattern for the intake adapter:







Next up is the parting board, and then the pattern and parting board will be sent off to get the match plate made.  The match plate is what the foundry uses to make the sand molds prior to pouring the parts.  Getting closer...
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2013, 09:02:51 PM »
Jay, what material is the pattern made from?  I was thinking they still used wood... Thanks, Bruce
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« Reply #56 on: March 05, 2013, 12:31:14 PM »
It's some kind of polyurethane plastic.  They actually took three 2" thick sheets and glued them together to get the plastic thick enough for the pattern; you can see the different color shades of the plastic in the photos.  The parting board will be wood.
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2013, 05:32:19 PM »
Funny how a check clearing starts moving things along.LOL
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« Reply #58 on: March 12, 2013, 09:01:29 PM »
Jay,
I may have missed it on previous posts, but wondering how the adapter will mate with Blue Thunder M/R heads with the raised upper portion of the intake port? Could it be made to work?

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« Reply #59 on: March 13, 2013, 03:10:57 AM »
Yes, there is enough meat in the adapter so that it could be port matched to the BT medium riser heads.
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC