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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #90 on: December 04, 2018, 04:23:33 PM »
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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #91 on: December 04, 2018, 04:27:48 PM »
Hey Brent I put my geuss in uncorrected HP. I thought thats what you wanted. How would you cross that over to corrected, or you cant do that till the day the engine is run.

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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #92 on: December 04, 2018, 04:40:44 PM »
where can I get that plug you have in the oil filler tube spot?

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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #93 on: December 04, 2018, 05:47:12 PM »
Hey Brent I put my geuss in uncorrected HP. I thought thats what you wanted. How would you cross that over to corrected, or you cant do that till the day the engine is run.

It will just depend on the correction factor for the day. 
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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #94 on: December 04, 2018, 06:37:18 PM »
565 hp @ 6100  uncorrected
« Last Edit: December 07, 2018, 11:06:16 AM by TimeWarpF100 »

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« Reply #95 on: December 04, 2018, 06:42:02 PM »
Very nice build. That's a huge hydraulic cam!  With all the power it's going to make, would it have been a good idea to cross bolt at least #2 and #4?

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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #96 on: December 04, 2018, 06:49:33 PM »
I don’t think it will make enough power to hurt itself.  Famous last words.
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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #97 on: December 04, 2018, 07:56:13 PM »
587HP 522lbs torque , I always worry about RPM,  HP isnt the killer IMHO sometimes its just ( simplified ) centrifugal Force IMHO , Nice Engine no matter what it does :-)

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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #98 on: December 05, 2018, 08:57:43 AM »
I don’t think it will make enough power to hurt itself.  Famous last words.

LOL

It's gonna take you 2 days just to go through all the guesses. I have to wonder if some of them missed the "uncorrected" part.
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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #99 on: December 05, 2018, 02:51:15 PM »
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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #100 on: December 07, 2018, 06:08:44 PM »
I’m headed to an ugly sweater party so I don’t have time to do a full write-up now, but I will later on.

The short and skinny of it is that this combo will go to 7500-7600 rpm very easily and my rockers were up to the task.

Uncorrected horsepower was 502.6 hp at 7000 rpm.  It only dropped 3 hp by 7250 and was trailing off at 7500.

I don’t have time to run through all pages from this thread, maybe someone can do the leg work while I’m looking at ugly sweaters.

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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #101 on: December 07, 2018, 08:12:12 PM »
I’m headed to an ugly sweater party so I don’t have time to do a full write-up now, but I will later on.

The short and skinny of it is that this combo will go to 7500-7600 rpm very easily and my rockers were up to the task.

Uncorrected horsepower was 502.6 hp at 7000 rpm.  It only dropped 3 hp by 7250 and was trailing off at 7500.

I don’t have time to run through all pages from this thread, maybe someone can do the leg work while I’m looking at ugly sweaters.

The closest guess without going over was the first guess and also the lowest.  Shady @ 491

491 @ 6250
« Last Edit: November 26, 2018, 08:37:53 AM by shady »

cjshaker was actually the closest @ 505 but went over.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2018, 08:15:09 PM by TimeWarpF100 »

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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #102 on: December 08, 2018, 03:07:15 AM »
Drat, that's the 2nd time I've missed it by just a few horsepower. Maybe the 3rd times the charm.
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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #103 on: December 08, 2018, 06:53:01 AM »
Drat, that's the 2nd time I've missed it by just a few horsepower. Maybe the 3rd times the charm.

It's also the 2nd time that Shady has won.....I promise this isn't rigged.  But the last time he won, I sent him some decals, etc., and he turned around and ordered a short block from me.  I'm waiting to see what he orders this time.   ;D

I would consider yesterday a pretty big success.  All-in-all, I wasn't out to make big horsepower, as I mentioned quite often.  It was a rather mismatched combination and it simply reinforced that the cylinder head plays a huge role in how the engine makes power.  If you compare this engine to the TFS headed 390 that I built a few months ago, there was a large difference in the components used, but only a small difference in corrected horsepower....actually only about 4 hp.  However, we have one head that flowed 330 cfm at lift and the other head that flowed mid 280's at lift.  Big difference. 

After we got heat in the dyno room, we were seeing corrected numbers of 542 hp/460 torque.  Peak torque was at 5500, which was pretty much where I thought it would be on an engine that's higher strung.

With a pan full of 5W-20 oil, we didn't have any issues with the lifter function.  It was very hard to get the oil temp up, but with 150° temps, we were seeing 70 psi at 4000 rpm and 80 psi at 7000 with a Melling HV pump and a Milodon oil pan with 9 quarts in the system.  I was oiling through the pushrods on this one with the head feeds blocked off in the block deck, so that gave me a good indicator of how the engine oiled with my rocker arms.  Running with a valve cover off, there was a nice little trickle at the roller tip.  Now, obviously, at 190-200° oil temp, the oil pressure would drop, probably by about 10 psi, but it would still be plenty enough to feed the system.   I was running .003"/.0025" bearing clearances.

At 7500 rpm, we were not hearing any audible sounds of the lifters giving up, or the valve springs being in distress.   I think if it would have had enough cylinder head, it would have pulled to 8000, but it was simply starting to run out of camshaft/head flow at around the 7250 mark.

Oil filter was clean and the plugs/exhaust ports looked real nice afterwards.

FWIW, it made the most horsepower with 41° of timing, but only dropped 6 hp at 36.

Next plan of action is to try another camshaft.  It won't happen for awhile but there's a couple of things that I want to try.  I will keep .050" duration the same and lift the same, but my plan is to tighten up the advertised durations considerably (more aggressive lobe) which will let me tighten up the lobe separation as well.  I wanted to start out with a "lazy" cam just to make sure that it wouldn't be a hindrance on pulling the rpms.  I can now start to creep up on the lobe aggression.

If anyone wants to hear a 7500 rpm hydraulic roller FE, here you go:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_JY47anClA  (Cool to watch the vacuum secondaries open)
« Last Edit: December 08, 2018, 07:01:25 AM by blykins »
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Re: Guess the horsepower on a little pepped-up 390....
« Reply #104 on: December 08, 2018, 07:18:00 AM »
Sounds good and in the video it sure sounded clean all the way to the end of the pull. Those rockers are working out well. Mis-matched as the combo may be, it would be a lot of fun on the street in a really  light rat rod or hotrod. Plus it looks good, but what FE doesn't?