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Re: 428 CJ
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2018, 03:35:59 PM »
thanks...I must have missed the oil pump recommendation...and I have heard the galley plug check....

Will the 230 #.050 have the lumpy I am looking for....that looks like the largest the springs will support....

Really appreciate teh comments.

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« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2018, 03:36:10 PM »
390 with Comp 294 S cam. 11 inch vaccum don't know
how accurate my vaccum meter is but no problem with
powerbrakes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3qCOEWIrJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu0N8MUT1u8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFJOJ9wDWms
It will behave more civiliced in a 428
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Re: 428 CJ
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2018, 03:38:18 PM »
thanks...I must have missed the oil pump recommendation...and I have heard the galley plug check....

Will the 230 #.050 have the lumpy I am looking for....that looks like the largest the springs will support....

Really appreciate teh comments.

Yes, the 230 @ .050" will sound pretty good. 
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2018, 03:44:44 PM »

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« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2018, 03:45:42 PM »
you know how to hurt a guy....

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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2018, 03:53:55 PM »
Sorry my cam is a 282s  236@ .050
I ordered a 294 but got a 282



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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2018, 04:07:33 PM »
you know how to hurt a guy....

Yep, you're new here for sure. Anyway, what do you think of the videos that I spent time searching for after I spent time looking for the correct cam number?

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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2018, 04:43:55 PM »
I just checked...he put a MEL M57...guess I need to check the galley plugs.

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Re: 428 CJ
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2018, 05:58:00 PM »
If it had 100 psi before I can think of 2 situations....

1.  Oil pressure blew a press in galley plug out.
2.  Relief is stuck open in the Melling.

You should have had 65-70 psi through that pull.
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2018, 08:09:01 PM »
good videos...and what I am looking for....

Good feedback on the oil pressure...I will pull the manifold and check for plugs...and review to replace the oil pump.

Thanks for the feedback....

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« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2018, 09:48:23 AM »
I did read the comment on towing...not sure I was planning on towing....just on that alone I want to rip it out...

You can have the only Mach I on your block with a tow hitch.

Maybe on his block, but not the only Mach with a tow hitch. Check out my signature pic :)
I actually get a kick pointing out to people that it DOES have a trailer hitch. People always look baffled when they see it..lol
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« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2018, 07:21:01 PM »
Under the heading..."you just cannot make this up"....I called the dyno guy....

The fuel setting..he is not sure if his sensors are off...and does not know if he has a leak on one side...and does not look between engine to engine to compare...it gets better....
He says he is not sure if the oil pressure is reading low or not....I asked him why does he have a gauge if he does not review it.  Guess I will buy a guage...
He reports the compression of 9:1 is a pressure guage during the run (that sound right?)
He says the stroke was what he was told...and just entered it....it is wrong for a 428...there is still more...
When I asked him why he ran it twice and why the first was so bad...he says ...he thinks the throttle on this one dropped so he restarted it...go figure the drop.....but the second one is still weak.
The 28 degree timing he said was correct for a small block Ford...and set it that way on the balancer....I had to tell him a 428 was a large block and should be 40ish.......that just might account for the HP--what >20 loss there?

So much for paying for a dyno to diagnose an engine...all results are now suspect..I will replace the cam and take it to someone local once I get it installed in the car....

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« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2018, 07:43:44 PM »
Your dyno guy ought to be shot...  >:(
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« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2018, 08:08:50 PM »
28 degrees ain’t even right for a small block.

I’d be tempted to take it somewhere else before cracking it back open.

The oil pressure is easy to check.  Put a gauge on the filter adapter and prime the oil pump with an electric drill motor.

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« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2018, 09:13:55 PM »
Your dyno guy ought to be shot...  >:(

Ditto. Not one response there made sense. Checking compression during a run? Um, yeah...ok ??? Like Brent said, I'd be tempted to find out the truth before yanking it apart. Hate to see you go to the expense and trouble if there isn't a need to. I would not trust a single thing that came from that guy, and I'd warn everyone I could to stay away from him.
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