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Re: COMP CAMS 292HYD
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2018, 11:48:28 AM »
My 67 comet sedan 460 power with aluminum heads and intake c-6 roll cage and sub frame connectors .Fiberglass bumper and hood single seat no interior to speak off weighs 3420 with me inside .This was done at the track since my car is track only .For comparisons sake it has been 10.72 @ 124 . An fe with aluminum heads intake and water pump would probably be 50-75 pounds lighter than a similar 460 combo .Why not let Brent set you up with a solid lifter camshaft ? My 460 and 427 have solid lifter camshafts .Happy fourth ! Doug

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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2018, 06:30:27 PM »
  Why not let Brent set you up with a solid lifter camshaft ?

I would be up front if I didn't think I could help.

I enjoy cam design probably more than any other facet of engine building.  I send out a lot of cams, but in the past couple months I have sent cams to 4 guys who were immediately able to either dyno the engine or get the car on the racetrack to quantify a difference. 

Two guys were members of my Cleveland forum. 

One had a 393 who had reached a wall and couldn't get his '70 Mustang to pick up.  He had a solid roller from Crower.  By simply decreasing the amount of overlap, I picked him up .06 in the 1/8th and 1 mph.  (Was running low 6.30's...)

Another guy was running an early Mustang with a 408C.  His previous cam was chosen by his builder.  I picked him up .4 in the quarter and he was still able to drive the car an hour each way to the track with power brakes.

The other two guys are members here.  I switched one guy's cam in his 428 from a 294S to a smaller hydraulic roller and picked him up 27 hp and 35 lb-ft.  I'm still waiting to hear back from the other guy.  He has a pulling truck with a 390 and wanted to pick up some more mid-range hp and torque. 

With fryedaddy's drivetrain and desire to pull rpms, I think we could gain some significant power with a solid flat tappet.
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Re: COMP CAMS 292HYD
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2018, 09:52:07 PM »
You forgot about me Brent.  Soon as i get a chance to put my cam in the fairlane i will post the results.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2018, 10:25:18 PM »
Not trying to derail the thread, but that recycling place is ripping people off with scales that are way off. That's not only illegal, but highly unethical. I think I'd be calling somebody about that.
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2018, 01:21:28 PM »
Not trying to derail the thread, but that recycling place is ripping people off with scales that are way off. That's not only illegal, but highly unethical. I think I'd be calling somebody about that.
another ripoff is gas pumps.i have a nice race gas can,well marked and accurate measurements on the side.a local store offers 93 no ethanol,so i took my can to the store and bought 5 gallons.it only showed 4 1/4 gallons in the can.i told the manager and she told me later i was right,she had it checked.same thing happened when i got 5 gallons of 110 leaded at another store,4 1/2 gallons for 5
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Re: COMP CAMS 292HYD
« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2018, 01:26:50 PM »
If you want to stay hydraulic, I don't think I can help you much.  If you want to go solid, I could pick you up some ponies.
Brent,i will be contacting you for a solid flat tappet cam and lifters.the 292 hyd is a good hyd cam for what it is,but with the rest of my combo if you think a good solid cam will help,im all for it
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Re: COMP CAMS 292HYD
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2018, 04:01:35 PM »
Not trying to derail the thread, but that recycling place is ripping people off with scales that are way off. That's not only illegal, but highly unethical. I think I'd be calling somebody about that.
another ripoff is gas pumps.i have a nice race gas can,well marked and accurate measurements on the side.a local store offers 93 no ethanol,so i took my can to the store and bought 5 gallons.it only showed 4 1/4 gallons in the can.i told the manager and she told me later i was right,she had it checked.same thing happened when i got 5 gallons of 110 leaded at another store,4 1/2 gallons for 5
i would just about bet that most or a big percent of gas stations pumps are off some and nobody catches it.on a 20 gallon fillup you could be way overcharged!
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Re: COMP CAMS 292HYD
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2018, 02:04:20 PM »
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The comet is really under 3000 lb???


No way, Jose.
update,i took my comet and had it weighed. you guys were right it weighed 3480 with me in it.im 250,plus a toolbox and a full tank of gas.looks like about 3200 without me and the toolbox.im still happy with that,but its not under 3000.i could shed the exhaust,tools,and a couple more things and maybe get close to 3100 without me in it.
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Re: COMP CAMS 292HYD
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2018, 05:29:53 PM »
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The comet is really under 3000 lb???


No way, Jose.
update,i took my comet and had it weighed. you guys were right it weighed 3480 with me in it.im 250,plus a toolbox and a full tank of gas.looks like about 3200 without me and the toolbox.im still happy with that,but its not under 3000.i could shed the exhaust,tools,and a couple more things and maybe get close to 3100 without me in it.

The only mature adult response to this is "Neener, neener, Jose!!". You owe me cheezburgr.

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Re: COMP CAMS 292HYD
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2018, 05:57:53 AM »
I have that same cam in a 428 with Edelbrock heads in my Fairlane.  It has a toploader and 4.11 gears and it performs pretty well.  I was tempted to swap it for a solid flat tappet a few years back.  I ran it by Brent and he thought it would run much better with a SFT cam.
If I was going to continue to run this engine in my car I'd have Brent spec me a cam and valve springs. I have the engine sold so I'll leave this to the next guy.   
I think if you make the swap you won't be disappointed. Brent is really good at spec'n out cams.

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Re: COMP CAMS 292HYD
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2018, 07:46:53 AM »
Did you ever pick a different cam?  My guess with the rpm you are pulling now and again, the current setup is likely screaming bloody murder.  You'd likely see it on a dyno

I think you'd gain some valve train control on the upper end and make some power with the right SFT and a good set of matching springs set up properly. 
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Re: COMP CAMS 292HYD
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2018, 02:12:08 PM »
im going to change the oil one more time and enjoy it till cold weather,then im going to holler at Bret for a SFT cam kit for a winter project.
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