Author Topic: Scott's 68 Cougar July 2017 dyno pull, getting ready for Drag Week 2017  (Read 9646 times)

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millerptl

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Slowly getting there. Freshened motor. More power than ever before. Now need to put in car and do some suspension tuning.

http://youtu.be/_30p0DP6hNM
« Last Edit: July 24, 2017, 12:30:28 PM by millerptl »

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You may have better luck YouTube'ing it.  Photobucket has developed into a nice steaming pile of parrot poo.
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Good idea, I'll do that later today

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Replaced with YouTube.

The video is shakey because the glass on the closed door was vibrating so badly.

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Awesome !!! Good luck at drag week!
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Sounds great, Jack.  What were the HP and torque numbers?  Or is that confidential  ;D
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Hey Jay, it's Scott. You know better than most the competitive nature of the classes. After Dragweek I will share, not to keep the info from members of the forum but to keep it from those running in the SR BB NA class. I will say the sum of the parts should stay in the 8's. I'm hoping I can deliver with my limited driving experience. I would love to win the class but that's not really why I compete. I do this because I love doing what my dad loves doing, making FE's perform as well as they can, plus it's the one week in the year I get to drive a fast car down a drag strip. For Dragweek 2018 a few of our Dragweek friends are purpose building 600+ cubic inch BBC's to run 8.50's in the SR BB NA class. Now I could try to answer with a 429 based BBF, but I haven't been won over to go that route.

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Hey Scott,  if we need to go 8.50s, we will just have to find some more FE steam for the ole Cougar.  From where we are now, it will take some R&D, but there is more there.  The trick is the reliability.  We could go 8.50 now, but we gotta make it last you the week!  It might be harder than those guys think to go 8.50 and run all week long.  Rumour is that Curtis runs a 632 BBC now, and he is within your grasp with the Cougar at 502 cubes.  We can still go a little bigger.....Maybe Mr. Jack will put the Cat on a diet and lose us a few pounds here and there.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2017, 10:27:17 PM by CaptCobrajet »
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This is slightly off topic, but given Scott's tremendous performance last year with more to come in 2017 I figure why not.

BTW I won't be competing at DW this year, but we'll be back in 2018 in SS BB N/A Question: the engine builder I work with, Dougan's in Riverside, CA primarily build trophy truck engines for several of the top teams, Ford and Chevy. Their stuff all uses Kinsler Dragon Claw EFI IR stuff. They think I can build more power under the curve with that setup vs. the Wilson tunnel ram, dual Accufab TB setup I run. Again full disclosure for those who don't know, I currently run a 598" TFS A460 headed Lima engine, but as they say the engine doesn't know what it says on the valve cover. The Kinsler setup is $$$$, but it puts the injectors way up on the stacks for improved charge cooling and they think I could pick up 70 ft/lbs across the 5500-7800 rpm band I care about. Thoughts?

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Bill, I know that the F1 guys put the injectors way up in the stacks, or even a plenum, to get the most charge cooling.  But I'd be surprised if there's 70 HP there, even at your power level.  I'll be very curious to see your results on that, if you go forward with it...
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Hey Jay, it's Scott. You know better than most the competitive nature of the classes. After Dragweek I will share, not to keep the info from members of the forum but to keep it from those running in the SR BB NA class. I will say the sum of the parts should stay in the 8's. I'm hoping I can deliver with my limited driving experience. I would love to win the class but that's not really why I compete. I do this because I love doing what my dad loves doing, making FE's perform as well as they can, plus it's the one week in the year I get to drive a fast car down a drag strip. For Dragweek 2018 a few of our Dragweek friends are purpose building 600+ cubic inch BBC's to run 8.50's in the SR BB NA class. Now I could try to answer with a 429 based BBF, but I haven't been won over to go that route.

I understand completely, Scott, and look forward to hearing more about the engine after the event.  Good luck!
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Congrats, Scott, and Blair. Looking forward to seeing the Cat run again this year. The fact that the "other team" needs 100+ more cubic inches just to keep up with that ancient FE speaks volumes about your combo! Last year you were consistent enough that you could have been a bracket racer..lol Hopefully you'll be into the 8's this year.

Just to refresh some memories, Scott was one of FOUR Fords (Ford powered) in a sea of Chevys last year, in Street Race Big Block NA. Alan Casida and I were 2 of those 4 Fords. And Scott ended up a very close 2nd!
« Last Edit: July 25, 2017, 01:37:44 PM by cjshaker »
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Just a quick comment, as far as I know Curt Johnson's big block Chev was around 510 cubic inches last year, not 632.  Brad Dyer's engine in his Nova is a 632" engine, or so he told me last year at Drag Week.
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Yeah, Curt told me 509 ci, 15:1 compression, and runs race gas on the street because the engine doesn't even like cruising on pump gas. Where he has me is in the weight of the car. He adds weight to be right on 3000lbs. I would too if I could, but somehow I need to lose 250lbs more.

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I think this calls for the creation of the "road to drag week 2017" category. Looking forward to seeing everyone's cars come together. I'm trying to make it out to Great Lakes Dragway to watch, I have family that lives in Milwaukee.

That Cougar is completely badass.
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