still smoking like a freight train

[fryedaddy]

man you talk about stepping in a pile.i did.i had a great running 433 ,cj heads,pi intake.i changed over to bbm heads and rpm intake and i aint had nothing but smoke and troubles.i put the intake on twice because i thought i had a bad seal the first time,but i dont think thats the case.i knocked the bottom out of the rocker bolt holes with my too long stock rocker bolts so i had to use sealer on my rocker bolts.still smoking bad.if its not too much oil to the rockers i dont know what it is.wish i had left it alone and never bought the parts.if the heads are new will too much oil to the rocker still make it smoke?what to do

[chris401]

You can pull all the plugs or hit the headers just off the heads with an infrared gun. The oil burners will be a little cooler. Either way if all are the same look at what they all have in common like PCV or intake to head being square.

[fryedaddy]

i dont have any restrictions to the rockers,would this help,oil is puddleing in the runners on every cylinder

[chris401]

i dont have any restrictions to the rockers,would this help,oil is puddleing in the runners on every cylinder

I do not know BBM heads at all. Just offering some general trouble shooting sugestions. Are your head ports or intake ports puddling up? If oil is building up in the intake runners look at your PCV hose connection. If PCV is your problem it will have unusual oil saturation where it connects. Go to the sorce. You can pull the valve and plug the line. Hold your engine at cruising speed and warch to see if the oil rises too high. If you can see oil rise up your engine is not draining to the pan very well and the PCV is sucking oil into the intake.


Possible that some baffolds are missing and there is too much oil splash on your PCV valve.

[fryedaddy]

my pcv is on the pass side,its puddleing on both sides and smokes out both sides even when pcv is unhooked.my pcv is wet with oil and on the other side my oil cap is oily i cant see down in the oil cap hole because theres a piece of medal on the inside of the valve cover to prevent splash,but oil is going around the medal plate and oiling the pcv and the breather cap on the other side

[chris401]

help on smoking issue
http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=4878.0

From the other post, When you unplugged and ran your car without PCV did you drive it for 10 miles? An oil saturated intake will take a while to pull all of the oil out of.

[fryedaddy]

i removed the intake and saw the oil in the heads.i got it out,put the intake back on and its doing it again.i bought a borescope and looked down in the intake runners and oil is still puddled in the heads

[blykins]

Take that stupid PCV valve off, cap the nipples, and see what it does.   Take it for a drive long enough to burn the residual oil out. 

[chris401]

i removed the intake and saw the oil in the heads.i got it out,put the intake back on and its doing it again.i bought a borescope and looked down in the intake runners and oil is still puddled in the heads

If the intake runners are clean it is probably an intake sealing issue. Next time the intake is off measure crushed thickness on the bottom and top of the intake gaskets. If your using Felpro make sure that the raised area that is supposed to crush is completely covered by the intake. Repprt your measurements here so one of the others can help.



 Up till now  Ford iron, Edelbrock and Offenhauser have always sealed for me. I hope my saying so does not ruin it.

[fryedaddy]

i took that stupid pcv valve off,blocked off the plug on the carb and valve cover and guess what.i took it for a ride and it just about completly quit smoking.can i leave the pcv off,the car gets limited use,a trip or two around the block,store,or a 5 to 10 mile ride down a winding country road.and an once in a while race

[fryedaddy]

i used eld. intake gasket,crush looked even

[blykins]

You don't need it.  Put a breather on both valve covers and roll with it. 

[fryedaddy]

its hard to believe that the pcv could make it smoke that bad,there must be something else.i just put it back in the garage and it blowed out a big puff when i cranked it.could it really quit smoking after 10 miles of driving

[chris401]

i took that stupid pcv valve off,blocked off the plug on the carb and valve cover and guess what.i took it for a ride and it just about completly quit smoking.can i leave the pcv off,the car gets limited use,a trip or two around the block,store,or a 5 to 10 mile ride down a winding country road.and an once in a while race

I would assume that a new designed head would have some of the old flaws fixed. Do the BBM heads have inlarged oil drains and alow for the drip tins?

Just a thought: Amoung many other things a PCV seems like a trivial thing but every little thing that we let slide on emissions makes it easier for politics to clamp down on the hobby.

[blykins]

Well, they can only clamp down on it if he's in an area where they do emissions testing and he doesn't have it. 

As for the BBM heads, the drains are sufficient and the drip tins are not necessary.   I would look for another smoking gun:  bad PCV valve, etc.