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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2016, 06:02:45 AM »
I'll bet Drew it's a stone bitch to set the valves while hot and running! LOL  :)

EMD = GM's Electro-Motive Division in LaGrange, IL near my home. They have made locomotive and ship engines for many decades at this sprawling plant. I wonder if yours were built here or at another plant. Any I.D. plate on yours as to where built? 
 
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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2016, 07:09:40 AM »
Setting the valves REALLY isn't that bad (Nobody sets valves with the engine running).  We always set the engines cold.  It's just easier.  Funny thing about these, when you've been towing really hard and you let them cool off then shut them down, they will pop and crack as they settle down to ambient temperature.  First time I heard a liner pop loudly it scared the crap out of me. 
A plate is welded to the side of the engine dictating what happens when for crankshaft degrees.  This way you can set the injector and valves while you roll the engine over.  It's very easy to roll the engine over by hand with just a prybar on the flywheel teeth.  Funny tho, when working on a Caterpillar you jot down notes in a laptop computer.  When working on a large Cummins, you take a notepad.  When working on an EMD, you dip your finger in some of the jet black lube oil that leaks from everywhere and write on the side of the block.

Both of these engines were built there at La Grange.
I should be there April 18-22 at the factory. 

Anyway, this is why I ask questions like "What do yall torque spark plugs to with aluminum heads?"  I'm used to everything needing to be perfectly blue printed as these engines essentially must survive an 8 year long dyno pull.

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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2016, 10:11:56 AM »
I was aboard a tugboat one time to change the
pipes for fire extinguising. It had a V12 Fourstroke
there was some spare rockerarms on the floor
about 20 inch long with roller tip 2 inch roller.
And 2 mother of all turbos. inlet on the turbo
was i gues 20-25 inches if not bigger no filter
no screen looked like it could suck me in with
welding machine and everything if they had started
it up. Old run down tug with a rowdy crew
My boss said to me the only thing missing
is a parrot on the shoulder and a wooden leg ;D ;D
lets se if i get any payment from this gang



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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2016, 10:29:25 AM »
Uh, maybe cash in advance? Hope you get it.
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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2016, 12:20:31 PM »
Nice Heo!!!

Yeah, first time you see some stuff it seems a lil weird.  Like watching a Chief on a dredge with Sulzer engines dump 5 gallon buckets of walnut shells into the engine while running WOT to clean the turbo and liners.

Tugs are a lot more civil than when I started.  Back then the crews were all convicts that were unemployable anywhere else.

Your description of that engine reminds me of a MAK engine.
This one was V12, 7200hp at 400rpms if I recall (it's been nearly a decade).  Turbo is in the backround.



ohh found this video of a smaller boat I was Chief on, circa 2007.  The Captain told me to "get all the power you can out of her"  So I turned the rpm's and fuel up a "tiny bit."  These were Detroit 2 stroke, 16v149 engines.  They are like mini emd's, they were amazing in their NPG's  (noise per gallon).
http://vid68.photobucket.com/albums/i6/DeepRootsNursery/Detroit149.mp4

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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2016, 12:44:21 PM »
"This one was V12, 7200hp at 400rpms if I recall (it's been nearly a decade).  Turbo is in the backround."

Yikes!  95,000 ft-lbs of torque!?!
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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2016, 01:05:54 PM »
This is my workplace

http://siemoffshore.com/Default.aspx?ID=197

But I'm in the other end of the stick from Drew, I belong to the worlds best paid birdwatchers ;)
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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2016, 01:50:09 PM »
"This one was V12, 7200hp at 400rpms if I recall (it's been nearly a decade).  Turbo is in the backround."

Yikes!  95,000 ft-lbs of torque!?!

That engine ran a pump that pumped mud through a 36inch diameter pipeline 8 miles.  Any more than that are we needed a booster pump.
Was on a job with 60,000ft of pipeline (same diameter).  I remember vaguely that it took 20-30 minutes to flush the line.  Had an engine randomly shut down one time and all that mud solidified in the pipeline (which was on the bottom of the seafloor 50ft down).  Was the worst month of my life :P

Nice boats Landlubberatsea!  anchor handling is tough work (for those paying attention, my boats bollard pull is 40 tons.  LandLubbers boat is rated at 297 ton pull, consider the forces of a floating boat exerting that much on something)
This is my current ride:


For comparison, the boat is 128ft long




Didn't mean to take over the cool steam engine thread..... I get excited about big machinery.
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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2016, 01:55:46 PM »
dbl post

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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2016, 03:07:51 PM »
Drew that engine look wery much like i remember it
its 25 years ago now .They towed barges with timber
from russia over the baltic sea to the lokal paper mill
and was grounded after a safety inspection.
Not alowed to leave harbour before the fire water pipes
was changed out. Hot as H...Dieselfumes, probably
been leaking since 1963,cramped spaces, good thing
the pirates brought us COLD german beers in a never
ending suply ;D  I had to call my wife to pick me and
my boss up drunk late att night in the harbour ;D ;D ;D



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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2016, 09:44:33 PM »
Didn't mean to take over the cool steam engine thread..... I get excited about big machinery.

No problem here - this stuff is the same kind of cool to me... :-)
Arrrrg.... LOL  My sig line everywhere else is somewhat political... Will that get me kicked?

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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #26 on: April 06, 2016, 02:33:34 PM »
Those Lanz Bulldog tractors in the first video have a 628 cubic inch single cylinder engine. Now that's what I call a thumper!

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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #27 on: April 07, 2016, 08:20:18 AM »
And i thought my AJS 500 was a thumper  :-[



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Re: Stumbled on this and just thought it was plain cool...
« Reply #28 on: April 09, 2016, 07:23:46 AM »
This old guy has some really cool stuff, about 20 acres of it. The last two video's of the old IHC truck is my kind of stuff ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Ab5N-jVmc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYX22yeqRpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyT073WNUwI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UB4jxD1cEs

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