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ChiefDanGeorge

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Oil Pumps
« on: January 12, 2016, 07:08:02 PM »
Still gathering parts for my 390 build(390/40 over/4.125 stroker, cruiser/highway wagon). I searched the forum for oil pumps to see if anything shook out as what most people are using. Seems Milodon is one that came up a good bit.
Should I lean towards a high volume unit, or is an OEM pump suitable for what I'm doing?

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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2016, 07:38:44 PM »
I recommend this pump.
The Melling M57HV.
If you want a really nice one get the M57HV from Precision.

http://stores.precisionoilpumps.com/blueprinted-melling-ford-fe-high-volume-1-4-pump/

http://www.summitracing.com/int/parts/mel-m57hv/overview/make/ford

This pump will read about 80 to 85 psi cold on start up and settle out around 65 psi when hot at 2000ish rpm.
Get a heavy duty drive shaft and you will have all the oil pumping you will need.
I like a mechanical gauge with a hard line to the gauge.
Do not use the plastic line that comes in the box.

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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2016, 10:40:09 PM »
Yeah, I'm a fan of HV pumps and thinner oil.

For my oil psi gauges, I use -4 SS line to the gauge.  Edelbrock has a lil 1/8inch X -4JIC adapter that hooks into a gauge easily.

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Drew "Yeah, I'm a fan of HV pumps and thinner oil."
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2016, 08:45:02 AM »
In this day and age "thinner" oil can be a multi-viscosity a 10w-40.  Do you run a low viscosity oil or multi-viscosity?

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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2016, 03:08:50 PM »
Should I use restrictors in the heads with the high volume pump?

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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2016, 03:24:05 PM »
I do and it makes me laugh how much oil is still up there.
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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2016, 04:01:33 PM »
I use Melling HV pumps and have had excellent service out of them.

In my 351Cs I run VR-1 30wt or 10w-30, both have the same oil pressure and bearings look the same on teardowns.  It's usually 10w-30 because it's stocked locally and straight 30wt is special order.

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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2016, 04:22:46 PM »
Should I use restrictors in the heads with the high volume pump?

I use restrictors in my Ed heads. I tapped the oil passage for a 1/4" 20 set screw and drilled the set screw
with a 0.070" hole. I have LOTS of oil up to the rockers.

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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2016, 04:32:31 PM »
Should I use restrictors in the heads with the high volume pump?

*cough cough*
WELL, if you'd bought the FE intake comparo book, you'd note the oil level info in the back shows you all ya need to know about that.
Just messing Chief, but I think Jay has videos online with an oil sightglass in the pan with and without restrictors.  Made a believer out of me.

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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2016, 06:48:04 PM »
Man, I am drowning in info as it is! I appreciate the heads up though!
Should I use restrictors in the heads with the high volume pump?

*cough cough*
WELL, if you'd bought the FE intake comparo book, you'd note the oil level info in the back shows you all ya need to know about that.
Just messing Chief, but I think Jay has videos online with an oil sightglass in the pan with and without restrictors.  Made a believer out of me.

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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2016, 08:59:19 PM »
Drew,

that is a pretty good video, link is here:
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vcWvp_DIWA

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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2016, 05:46:30 AM »
Is that with restrictors?
Drew,

that is a pretty good video, link is here:
 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vcWvp_DIWA

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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2016, 09:47:42 AM »
Yes, that is with restrictors.  There is another video, which I think is the one that Drew was referring to, where I have a sight tube installed on the oil pan, and you can see the oil level in the pan going down during the dyno pull.  Can't find that one at the moment...
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Re: Oil Pumps
« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2016, 11:44:15 AM »
Here is a good overview of pumps and other oiling options for the FE: http://fordfe.info/Forum/Oil.html

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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2016, 12:38:08 PM »
Looking at the Figure 1 there, there are only 2 oil feed passages in the heads(1 per head)?

Here is a good overview of pumps and other oiling options for the FE: http://fordfe.info/Forum/Oil.html