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Holley Hydramat
« on: August 30, 2015, 09:48:12 PM »
While I am in the process of swapping out my old gas tank for a new replacement, I decided to go with Holley's new Hydramat. My old tank is slightly dented on the bottom, trapping a little fuel in the front corners away from the pickup. I have the RobbMc 1/2" sending unit with home made AN adaptation. When the fuel gets below a quarter tank, it starves and fuel pressure becomes erratic(w/electric fuel pump), and sometimes it even stalls. Well, if something is worth doing, it's worth over-doing, right? Enter the Holley Hydramat. I was just about literally drooling over this at PRI. I knew I had to have it. It is a fuel absorbant mat that easily wicks fuel from any part of the mat, no matter how low the fuel level is, it still pulls fuel through until the supply is depleted. It doesn't create any problems with fuel pressure until the supply is basically down to absolutely nothing. Here is a video of it. https://youtu.be/4rG97UuVgmQ
I just ordered the 15×15" X shape.




Has anyone else used this yet, or am I the guinea pig? I will post updates when it arrives and show installation.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2015, 09:54:02 PM by Nightmist66 »
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Re: Holley Hydramat
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2015, 10:59:50 PM »
That is cool, look forward to hearing how it works for you.

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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2015, 11:13:24 PM »
I haven't seen that before, it does look cool. I was wondering  which robbmc pickup you used, I didn't see a fairlane  pickup listed. I made mine from 1/2" tubing but the gauge doesn't work. I'd like to buy a complete unit with an fittings and get my fuel gauge working. Thanks.
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Re: Holley Hydramat
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2015, 11:15:03 PM »
Was thinking about that for mine.
Love to hear how it works.
The PRI demos were awesome.
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Re: Holley Hydramat
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2015, 11:36:33 PM »
I haven't seen that before, it does look cool. I was wondering  which robbmc pickup you used, I didn't see a fairlane  pickup listed. I made mine from 1/2" tubing but the gauge doesn't work. I'd like to buy a complete unit with an fittings and get my fuel gauge working. Thanks.

He used to show one for the Fairlane, which I believe is the same exact one listed currently for the Mustang. The gauge did read incorrectly at first. I remedied that with a resistor in parallel with the float and slightly bending the arm. I think the resistor was a 160 or 180ohm from radio shack, I would have to check. It seems dead accurate now. I took out the two stub pieces of 1/2" aluminum tubing on the outside and put in two other pieces of 1/2" aluminum tubing stock that didn't have a seal bead rolled into it for a hose. I used good 'ol JB Weld to seal them. Then, I used two of the Summit Racing 1/2" hard tube to AN adapters to go on the new lines. Part #SUM-2200078 It uses a compression fitting. Works well, I have those two, plus two more connecting my Moroso 1/2" tubing to Aeroquip Socketless hose. No leaks.

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2015, 11:58:36 PM »
Thanks for the information.  I'll check with Robbmc for fitment details. I drilled out my stock plate then tig welded 1/2" steel line bent in the same dimension as the stock tube. The hardline -8an fitting was ordered friday and should be here Wednesday. Had the same problem last year with my fairlane running out of fuel.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2015, 08:22:53 PM »
Just an update on the project today. I finally started to work on it today. I would like to say it was smooth sailing, but let's just say it isn't quite done yet. ::) How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. This is a long post, so you better be sitting down. There are lots of pictures though. :D

Here's the Hydramat




There is a nice color booklet too...



Fastback427, here are some pics of my AN setup




Here is the resistor I used to correct the fuel gauge. Note the resistor is installed in parallel with the float.



I decided to shed some light on the matter, so I made a window in the old tank to make mockup easier.


I thought I had all the fittings I should need.(straight npt to AN adpater not pictured)

Holley says not to use any sealer on the fittings, OK  ;)


I found out why I had a starvation problem...

Over half an inch! Plus the tank was dented...


Starting to mock things up...


I saw this tube was going to be in the way, and since it does nothing past the float housing, off it came.


Talk about a square peg in a round hole!

I will have to put it in another way, but it WILL just barely go.

Well, as much as I wanted to go the full AN route, it was clear it was never going to go into the tank that way or come out, so I decided to go the way they show in the booklet. ::) Luckily I had most of the fittings already, so I wasn't really out much.


I cut almost exactly 1 3/4" off the tube and bent it up like this


Now it looks like it may work...


They also want the return to spray back on the Hydramat. I wanted to use a 3/8" tube and bend it the way I needed, but I found out the hole was already 7/16" and now I had to try for 1/2" tubing and hope it fits. It didn't.


So now, my next step was to use a 1/4" NPT fitting to 3/8" hose. The fitting fit nicely in the 1/2" hole. I also added a spring inside the hose to keep it from collapsing on the tight bend. Here is a mockup pic.


Now that I added that hose, I have to loosen the set screw for the float tube and pull it out of the pickup and wiggle it in after I start the hose going to the hydramat in the tank hole.Nothing is easy. >:(


On to fixing the return hose fitting to stay and seal into the pickup. I rely on trusty JB Weld.



End scene for today, hope you enjoyed.(cuz I know I didn't ;D)
« Last Edit: September 07, 2015, 09:44:28 PM by Nightmist66 »
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Re: Holley Hydramat
« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2015, 08:38:53 PM »
I'm getting the idea I should have just gotten a fuel cell. :P

But then I wouldn't have a working fuel gauge.....
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2015, 09:29:23 PM »
I'm getting the idea I should have just gotten a fuel cell. :P

But then I wouldn't have a working fuel gauge.....

Jared, anybody can do it the easy way.  ;) Nice write up, tanks for posting. Will continue to follow.
« Last Edit: September 07, 2015, 09:30:59 PM by Bolted to Floor »
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2015, 09:40:35 PM »
Thanks, now I just need to build up the motivation to go back and finish it. ::)
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2015, 06:36:35 AM »
Jared, look good and neat parts!

Keep it going, should work out nice.  Pretty wild how many versions they have, I wouldn't have thought there was that much of a market.
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Re: Holley Hydramat
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2015, 08:01:40 AM »
Looks great so far, Jared!  Thanks for taking the time to take all those pictures and post the information; anybody else who wants to use that product will find it very helpful - Jay
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Re: Holley Hydramat
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2015, 06:17:32 PM »
Thanks for the compliments guys, I'll keep after it.

I also decided to go with Holley's new HP150 pump and billet regulator. The regulator is installed. Still need to mount the pump. I bought a nice billet bracket a year ago for my old Holley pump, and wouldn't ya know, the new pump is quite a bit bigger. I'll have to use the one supplied. Well, it'll make a nice shelf ornament I guess....
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2015, 07:39:33 PM »
Gonna do this when I get to the mustang Jared, so find all the problems will yah? ;)
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2015, 07:51:12 PM »
So far they have been finding me! So, yeah ;)
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