New to FE Power, thinking about a cam upgrade.

[Yellow Truck]

And I found a small version of my rear wheel dyno results from after I dropped the 410 in. For context I had completed the rebuild of the body and still had a 360 in it, found the 410 and just did a straight swap.

I am going to pull the heads and do the measuring. I have a friend with a lot of experience who is itching to do it and do it right, so we will tear down the top, get the measurements, and then decide how to proceed.

[Yellow Truck]

This attachment thing is driving me batty. Hope this works.

[NIsaacs]

Nice pickup! I am a truck guy too, I will be watching your build. No such thing as too much power, stock is boring! Just so you can compare, here is a dyno sheet of my 428 when it was mostly stock. I have since installed a complete Edelbrock top end kit and hope to put it back on the same dyno this spring.

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Nick

[turbohunter]

Cool truck Paul.
Congrats.
Getting power is not a problem. Only limited by your wallet and/or time.
You're prolly going to have to go with the 435 for a trans unless you want to spend and fab a bit since you have a 4x. I'm not aware of a swap yet that will work with the FE and a married transfer case.
There may be something out there though. All the 5 speed swaps I've seen we're 2 wheel drive.
I've always wondered if a top loader could be made to work. I know that you can do a Jeep retrofit on them and put the shift lever on top (I have one) I don't know about the tail section yet getting it mated to a 205. Maybe someone else could chime in on that.

[Yellow Truck]

Nick,

Your curve looks a lot like mine. Not surprising since they have the same crank. My plan is get it out, get it apart, measure everything, and come back here with the data for a consult. Then I'll order some parts. I'm keeping an eye on the classifieds - there are some intakes for sale but I'm not interested in them (Edelbrock Streetmaster, a Weiland, and an Offy 2X4). Then I'll order some parts - I am going with a hydraulic roller - get them installed, measure the pushrod spacing (my buddy has a tool for this), get them ordered, fix some oil leaks, and then get it installed. I will then set it up on a dyno and I'll post the new results.

Marc, Novak out of Utah quoted me $3,200 for a T19 to Dana 20 combo using an adapter. I decided to go with engine upgrades first, thinking A) I'd like more power, and B) it wouldn't cost as much this year. A) is till true, beginning to think B) may be a misunderstanding! Once the engine is out who knows where I'll stop.

The Dana 20 is cool because it comes with separate front and rear L-N-H shifters. I always wanted a front wheel drive F100. The T19 is attractive because it is a true 4 speed.

[fastback 427]

Don't underestimate the street master intake, very good if the price is right.

[turbohunter]

Nick,
Marc, Novak out of Utah quoted me $3,200 for a T19 to Dana 20 combo using an adapter.
The Dana 20 is cool because it comes with separate front and rear L-N-H shifters. I always wanted a front wheel drive F100. The T19 is attractive because it is a true 4 speed.

I talked to Novak when I was doing mine and never knew about the T-19 with the 4.02 first gear.
That sounds sweet.

[Yellow Truck]

Next year.

[Yellow Truck]

The guy with the Edelbrock Streetmaster thinks it is sold (to a guy in Kansas, wonder if he realizes it is not in the U.S.), but he has a Weiand 7282 for sale as well. I don't know anyone who has run this intake. Obviously, the question is in the context of a 410 built for a strong street application.

[NIsaacs]

I think that intake is similar to an Edelbrock Performer, about like a stock intake only lighter. If you go with a set of ED heads you might want to use the ED rpm, it don't have the exhaust crossover. The Streetmaster and Holly street dominator are both good intakes but have the crossover, not a big issue, but some, if you end up with ED heads, they don't use the crossover either.

Nick

[jayb]

The guy with the Edelbrock Streetmaster thinks it is sold (to a guy in Kansas, wonder if he realizes it is not in the U.S.), but he has a Weiand 7282 for sale as well. I don't know anyone who has run this intake. Obviously, the question is in the context of a 410 built for a strong street application.

The Weiand is a HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE intake.  Don't waste your money on that one!  On the other hand, for a 400-450 HP engine it is really tough to beat the Edelbrock Streetmaster.  If you can't find one, buy an Edelbrock Performer RPM, which is just as good.

From my book, dyno results for a few intakes:

428CJ with Weiand 7282:  354.6 peak HP, 419.3 peak torque
428CJ with Edelbrock Streetmaster:  412.8 peak HP, 477.7 peak torque
428CJ with Edelbrock Performer RPM:  407.3 peak HP, 484.1 peak torque

390 Stroker with Weiand 7282:  432.1 peak HP, 448.4 peak torque
390 Stroker with Edelbrock Streetmaster:  484.7 peak HP, 512.7 peak torque
390 Stroker with Edelbrock Performer RPM:  504 peak HP, 505.5 peak torque

[Yellow Truck]

Thanks, Jay. I had read less than flattering reviews, but I like data over opinions. I'll try and get him to sell me the Streetmaster. Seems to be in ok shape.

[Yellow Truck]

Confirmed the heads and intake:
Heads are C7AE-A
Intake is a C6AE 9425-G with a big "S" on it. Nothing special in either case.

[jayb]

The "S" on that intake stands for "sucks"     Dyno results with the S intake on the same two engines mentioned previously:

428CJ with Ford S intake:  355.2 peak HP, 469 peak torque
390 stroker with Ford S intake:  418.5 peak HP, 489.9 peak torque

[ScotiaFE]

That head thing again
The C7AE head was the stock head used on my beloved 1967 GT 500 S code Fairlane.
Ya the Mustang and Shelby also.
Other wise called the GT head.
And they are the worst head ever used on an FE.
They are even lower on the pole than the C8's
They have the smallest ports of any head and you could grind on them for a month
and they will still suck even worse then the S intake that came with them. lol
If you are on a strict budget then I would look for a decent set of C6 or earlier or a set of D2's.
And work up from there.