FE Build at Hot Rod Engine Tech

[jayb]

John Baechtel at Hot Rod Engine Tech is starting an FE build based on a 390 block.  He is looking for suggestions on the build.  He is pretty much wide open at this point.  The story is on his main page, and there is also a post on his message board under the Traditional Hot Rod Engines section. A link to the Hot Rod Engine Tech web site is below:

http://hotrodenginetech.com/

[cjshaker]

What rocker system is that on the first Weber equipped engine? Looks like a T&D shaft system, but those aren't T&D rockers....unless they've been redesigned. Those rockers look pretty darn strong!

Edit: On closer looking, they don't look like Webers, just an injection system of some sort.

[Barry_R]

I think its a TWM injection.  Those are possibly Jesels - or something unique.  Mike from MiTech is one of the original engine builder guys from Shelby that were responsible for bringing their block into production.

[jayb]

The rockers are available direct from Shelby; see the link below.  They look like Precision Oil Pumps stands, and probably their shafts, and some other rocker arm that I can't identify.  If I recall correctly I read somewhere that they were steel rockers.  At $900 for the set including shafts and stands, I doubt that they are Jesels or T&Ds.  Maybe Rocker Arm Specialist?

http://www.shelbyengines.com/collections/misc-parts

EDIT:  Oops, I take that back, the rockers in the picture look different than the Shelby rockers.  Hmmmm...

[Barry_R]

Looks like a high end Jesel "Mohawk" rocker arm - but using the four OE mounting studs to retain things.  Odd combination there.

[cjshaker]

It's an Inglese induction system.

Yes, after looking around, they appear to be a higher end Jesel design rocker. Can't quite figure out that shaft system though. They seem to use some sort of split shaft design, but sitting on some sort of "cradle". It also appears to have Blue Thunder heads, and I don't believe they have the original style 4 bolt mounting set-up, although the cradle seems to have it. It would be interesting to know more about them.

Edit: They are a Jesel Pro J2K series system. Found here....
http://www.race-mart.com/Pro-J2K-Series-Shaft-Rockers_c_702.html
http://www.jesel.com/valvetrain/index.php/rockers/pro-series (sorry for the links to business websights. Only for reference)

And they must be Edelbrock heads. Still can't find anything on the cradle system though. They don't show it on Jesels websight. Very interesting set-up.

[1967 XR7 GT]

I agree looks like the Jesel Mohawk rockers, mounted to a single stand, each pair of rockers with there own shaft secured @ 3 Points, the center one a stud at the OE rocker shaft mounting points which secures the rocker stand, all of which I think is a one off setup some one had Jesel do for them. The thing about this setup is it requires rocker oiling thru the lifters & push rods, instead of the OE shaft oiling. This rocker setup is along the lines of T&D's Race setup, including the rocker oiling.
If I had the funds, I would rather go T&D's Steel Rocker setup, or I would even like to try Del West's Raptor Steel Rockers.

[Ford428CJ]

I wouldnt mind trying out the Shelby Rocker set ups.... You dont hear much about them. I wonder if they are forgot about.

I also wonder about the rest of these and who has used them?

http://www.cranecams.com/uploads/instructions/560e_.pdf

http://www.jomarperformance.com/FE-Rocker-Info.php

[cjshaker]

I wouldnt mind trying out the Shelby Rocker set ups.... You dont hear much about them. I wonder if they are forgot about.

I don't think they're forgot about, just to darned expensive for most people considering they don't improve over the original design like the T&D Race set-up, Jomars or Jesels. I'm sure they're more popular in the Shelby crowd where a lot of guys want the Shelby name on as many parts as they can.

[1967 XR7 GT]

John Baechtel at Hot Rod Engine Tech is starting an FE build based on a 390 block.  He is looking for suggestions on the build.  He is pretty much wide open at this point.  The story is on his main page, and there is also a post on his message board under the Traditional Hot Rod Engines section. A link to the Hot Rod Engine Tech web site is below:

http://hotrodenginetech.com/

Hi Jay

I registered over there several days ago and my account still has not been activated. I tried to contact them  thru the "CONTACT US" at the bottom of their main page repeatedly, but it comes back with an error saying   "That CAPTCHA Code: * was incorrect Try Again".  I wonder if I am the only one having problems or are there others ?

Maybe you could give them a heads up on their site issues, since I have no way to contact them, not that I any longer have any interest to post over there anyways.

Thanks 

[afret]

Yup, looks like Jesels.  The problem with Jesels is that they still use the original four 3/8" mounting holes in the head.  One good thing is that like the good T+D setup, you can take off two rockers at a time with no load on them.  I think I'd stick to the good T+D though with the much stronger mount to the head.

[LuxurySportCoupe]

John Baechtel at Hot Rod Engine Tech is starting an FE build based on a 390 block.  He is looking for suggestions on the build.  He is pretty much wide open at this point.  The story is on his main page, and there is also a post on his message board under the Traditional Hot Rod Engines section. A link to the Hot Rod Engine Tech web site is below:

http://hotrodenginetech.com/

Hi Jay

I registered over there several days ago and my account still has not been activated. I tried to contact them  thru the "CONTACT US" at the bottom of their main page repeatedly, but it comes back with an error saying   "That CAPTCHA Code: * was incorrect Try Again".  I wonder if I am the only one having problems or are there others ?

Maybe you could give them a heads up on their site issues, since I have no way to contact them, not that I any longer have any interest to post over there anyways.

Thanks

I'm having the same issue as well.

[jayb]

I sent John an email with a heads up on this problem - Jay

[Ford428CJ]

John Baechtel at Hot Rod Engine Tech is starting an FE build based on a 390 block.  He is looking for suggestions on the build.  He is pretty much wide open at this point.  The story is on his main page, and there is also a post on his message board under the Traditional Hot Rod Engines section. A link to the Hot Rod Engine Tech web site is below:

http://hotrodenginetech.com/

Hi Jay

I registered over there several days ago and my account still has not been activated. I tried to contact them  thru the "CONTACT US" at the bottom of their main page repeatedly, but it comes back with an error saying   "That CAPTCHA Code: * was incorrect Try Again".  I wonder if I am the only one having problems or are there others ?

Maybe you could give them a heads up on their site issues, since I have no way to contact them, not that I any longer have any interest to post over there anyways.

Thanks

I'm having the same issue as well.

Me too as well! No email as of yet....

[rockittsled]

same issue here as well