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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2014, 12:14:23 AM »
That looks pretty nice, and a cool specialty piece too. Has it been balanced already?

I'm gonna have to head to Lowes. I had no idea they carried 427 parts ;)
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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2014, 01:50:18 AM »
Lowes never stops improving...LOL.

The balancing is going to be interesting, the crank weighs about 78 pds, so kinda heavy, and assuming was ran with heavier Lemans rods. So how light can I go with rods & piston before I run into balancing problems.
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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2014, 05:10:20 PM »
I stopped by the balancing shop today and talked to the guy. I had found earlier the C4AE 6303 G cranks out of the High Riser had a 2,303.5 gr. bobweight,  my crank is the C4AE 6303 G but has 2 extra counterweights off the center main, the balancing guy says the extra 2 weights won't effect the bobweights very much if any since their on the center main.

My dilemma is, if I go too light on the rods and pistons, he'll have to swiss cheese the crank weights to balance the assembly and if I go too heavy he'll have to add Mallory Metal. I took him one of the SK rods and a stock 390 C7AE-B rod, the 390 rod is too light, and the SK is too heavy.

So referencing the rotating weight of 650 gr of the SK rod and a guesstimate weight of 800 gr for a TRW piston & pin those would add 300 gr to the bobweight requiring Mallory metal.  Options are finding a piston & pin weighing 500 gr to lose the 300 gr or find a rod & piston combo to loose the 300 or so weight.

So the trick is finding what I need off the shelf other wise I will have to go custom ($$$$).

A C4AE-6303-G is a forged steel crank, induction hardened SAE 1046 material.
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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2016, 04:22:20 AM »
I have not updated in some time, I've collected some minor engine parts.

I did send my manifold out to have all the stripped out carb stud holes time serted and had the carb base pad decked.



I had gotten the car moved into the garage, got the headers off and had forgotten how much work they are, and gotten the heads off.



Back in July 2014, my storage was broken into and 2 of my motorcycle were stolen. Fast forward Feb 2016, get a call from the police and they inform me my 79 Yamaha Daytona Special was recovered. $455 dollars later I pick my bike up from the impound. So I've been picking up pieces to put this back on the road. Basically to many projects at one time.

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Re: My 427 Build/Match Ported Sidewinder
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2017, 06:02:54 PM »
Now, with the Biggest Ticket Item out of the way, I can start working on the little stuff.

I've had these items show up at my door. Heads are the Street Pro Ports, with stock location exh. Shock Towers made it necessary to go with stock location exh, due to how tight the 2 1/8" adjustable headers were, I couldn't take the chance with having the headers re-flanged, then dealing with fitment issues.

Then I had my "J" Sidewinder matched ported








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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2017, 08:53:11 PM »
Very nice Richard! By the way which rod let go?
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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #36 on: August 08, 2017, 10:52:02 PM »
The rod didn't actually let go, probably just spun the bearing, it was knocking pretty good.

And it was the No. 1 rod.
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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2017, 10:35:34 AM »
If it was the #1 rod.... It wasn't (more then  likely ) an oiling issue.
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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2017, 02:41:25 PM »
Probably just a piece of lint or dust, but in the first photo showing the main bearing installed, it looks like there is a crack across the oil hole in the block?

** EDIT ** I noticed it might be a photo of another block your using for reference?
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Re: My 427 Build/Match Ported Sidewinder to Blair's Pro Ports
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2017, 09:40:11 AM »
Heads are the Street Pro Ports, with stock location exh.

Excellent choice on heads. I love mine.

Damn I'm happy to see this thread going again. Get that cat rolling, Richard.



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Re: My 427 Build/Match Ported Sidewinder to Blair's Pro Ports
« Reply #40 on: August 11, 2017, 02:19:20 AM »
It took a while to save up for these, and I've also picked up a few small items here and there. Maybe in 3 or 4 months I'll have a 390 together.


Heads are the Street Pro Ports, with stock location exh.

Excellent choice on heads. I love mine.

Damn I'm happy to see this thread going again. Get that cat rolling, Richard.
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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2017, 05:42:00 PM »
Here's an update.
I haven't work on the car much, but I have been collecting a few items. The car came with power steering, that I am not going to use, I've been collecting manual steering components, idler arm, pitman arm, drag link and so on, to redo the front end, but I'm keeping the power steering box, and converting it to electric power steering. Here's a link to some ideas: http://forums.vintage-mustang.com/mod-custom-forum/670865-anyone-want-100-electric-power-steering-here-you-go.html

 Oh, and I went old school and picked up a new carburetor:
I wanted vacuum secondary's so I went with this NOS Holley 1050 CFM 3 Barrel.
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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2017, 08:41:15 AM »
That crank with the center weights is cool as hell.

This is ancient history now, but regarding the 391 crank I was talking about selling to you;  I think I said I was going to wait until I got my other 391 crank back from being machined before I sold the first one.  I thought it was going to be 2-3 months.  Well, it was something closer to 2-1/2 years.  By then you seemed to be way past that point.  Sorry about that. 

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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2017, 12:35:39 PM »
You torque the main caps first without spacers or cross bolts in place. Then insert the spacers, they should be almost hard to get in there (have no clearance), but not have to "beat" them in. They have three sizes with a range from .3725 to .3775 so maybe you will have to replace a couple, or maybe you can try again, and possibly move spacers around to get a good fit. I believe Doug at Precision oil pumps may have made up some for people needing to dial that in.

Here is a Ford blueprint on the cross bolted caps, notice it says to torque the main caps first, then place the spacers, it also shows the correct sequence which is a little different than you would think. Also, torque the cross bolts in two steps (at least 3 steps on the main caps). Check it out...




Some years ago, I had an FE engine built by the Roush Prototype Shop. When it came time to fit the spacers for the crossbolts, I had eight spacers available. They found it necessary to make several more in order to have the proper fit. Finally, the spacers went into place with a firm thumb push. They didn't have to be pecked-at' to be placed, and they didn't drop through.

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Re: My 427 Build
« Reply #44 on: April 11, 2018, 01:08:36 AM »
Update, I had previously sent out my Sidewinder to be match ported, when I got it back, I was very disappointed on how it turned out, so I just shelved it.  Eight months later, it's time to start working on the motor again, I pull the manifold down and sent it out to get welded, and then get in touch with Joe D. Craine, to make a long story short the manifold showed today, it will make a substantial improvement on my heads now.

It was too bad Jay wasn't able to find at least a matched ported Sidewinder, let alone a worked one like mine for his Manifold Comparo, I think the results would of been far better than what they were. That was one of the reasons I decided to run a Sidewinder, the unknown potential of a ported version.



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