428/C6 no block plate?

[Jb427]

428Marauder Not sure how handy you are but it is not really a small job to fit the blockplate gearbox converter and flexplate need to come off. Some one here should be able to give you some starter measurement's to check and make sure there is nothing else going on. Best to check all that when you have it apart and you can check as you put it back together. Or ask you mechanic to check for you.
 

I wonder, if you cut the center out so it would slip by the crank, you might be able to move the trans back past the dowel pins and slide it in there.....

I would not do that it may flop around if you cut it and I think he needs to replace the flexplate as well if it took the teeth off. I really think it is worth checking everything is right. Some mechanics are ruff and just send jobs out the door "poor man pays twice"

[FERoadster]

Looked at my flex plates and they have quite an offset from the ring gear to the crank. Would they still turn if the flexplate was inside out? All of my engines are on stands or sitting on the crank flange down. I've got no immediate way to check if one would even fit without hitting the block.
Richard >>> FERoadster

[Jb427]

I use an ATI flexplate and it is flat and it has a spacer that goes on the crank so ring gear should be offset away from block.

[428Marauder]

We’re replacing the flywheel. Actually we did a whole variety of things, including replacing the rear main seal while we were in there. Mechanic seems to know what he’s doing regarding Fords and I’m going to trust him to figure it out from here. We should be good now. Thanks guys. Will message you in a sec FERoadster.

[fryedaddy]

428Marauder Not sure how handy you are but it is not really a small job to fit the blockplate gearbox converter and flexplate need to come off. Some one here should be able to give you some starter measurement's to check and make sure there is nothing else going on. Best to check all that when you have it apart and you can check as you put it back together. Or ask you mechanic to check for you.
 

I wonder, if you cut the center out so it would slip by the crank, you might be able to move the trans back past the dowel pins and slide it in there.....

i did that one time and it did work

[428Marauder]

Got the inspection plate today. Thanks again FERoadster. Still at the mechanic so hopefully that means I wont have to crawl under the car to put it on. Anyone know the size of those 4 bolts?

[Rory428]

Which 4 bolts? The block plate is just sandwiched between the block and the bellhousing, and is held in position by the dowel pins. The 6 bolts that hold the bellhousing to the block are 7/16 NC, with a 5/8" bolt head, the inspection cover bolts are 5/16" NC, with a 1/2" bolt head, as are the starter bolts.

[428Marauder]

Which 4 bolts? The block plate is just sandwiched between the block and the bellhousing, and is held in position by the dowel pins. The 6 bolts that hold the bellhousing to the block are 7/16 NC, with a 5/8" bolt head, the inspection cover bolts are 5/16" NC, with a 1/2" bolt head, as are the starter bolts.

The 4 inspection cover bolts. 5/16 NC and do you know how long?

[Jb427]

Short 1/4 or next length up from 1/4" I am metric so I used 8/10mm long ones what ever that is in imperial .375" I also had to cut one of mine shorter because my exhaust headers are close in one spot get bolts with serrated heads that will stop them shaking lose they don't get through bolted.

[TomP]

Lesson is to not let Chevy guys work on Fords. They know diddly squat about them and screw them up. One local yahoo is a diehard Chevy guy but wanted a Cobra kit car... and it had to be "correct" with a 427 Ford. So of course he had starter problems, never solved despite spending thousands on different fancy starters and flywheels and shims, never even knew they made ones for Fords but they do, a ring with the bolt holes. So then finally, after a year he calls me and asks what the flat plate is for on the new thousand dollar Quicktime bellhousing "My Lakewood never had that".

[428Marauder]

Lesson is to not let Chevy guys work on Fords. They know diddly squat about them and screw them up. One local yahoo is a diehard Chevy guy but wanted a Cobra kit car... and it had to be "correct" with a 427 Ford. So of course he had starter problems, never solved despite spending thousands on different fancy starters and flywheels and shims, never even knew they made ones for Fords but they do, a ring with the bolt holes. So then finally, after a year he calls me and asks what the flat plate is for on the new thousand dollar Quicktime bellhousing "My Lakewood never had that".

Well, while that’s true and the previous mechanic should have caught what the mechanic that has it now when he did the starter, it looks like the real problem was the guys who rebuilt the trans did not put the block plate and inspection plate back in. That was like 3 years ago so they aren’t going to do anything about it now. It’s been such a pain because when the trans burned up it also caused a leak in the radiator which caused water and trans fluid to mix. With your guys help and this new mechanic that knows Fords I should finally get past all this. Lesson: If you know your trans is going out, get it rebuilt before it burns up.

[Rory428]

I have to think that the cooler inside the radiator started leaking, and mixing the coolant and ATF, and was unrelated from the transmision "burning up". I can`t think of any situation where the transmission failing could cause that to occur.I have seen several cases where the radiators internal trans cooler failed, and the ATF turned into a "Pepto Bismal" pink milkshake, but had nothing to do with the transmissions condition. My guess is that the cooler just sprung a leak inside the rad.