BBM head info

[jayb]

Great, I have to delete more posts   I hate doing that.  What is it about being civil that some people don't understand?  There's room for more than one opinion here.  FWIW, I think both Blair and Brent make a positive impact on this forum, and I value and welcome their contributions.  Unfortunately, I've had to delete posts from both of them over the last few months when things start to get out of hand, but that is just competitiveness rising to the surface, and I think we should all understand that... 

[Dumpling]

I'm really far down the tail of the bell curve of everyone else who posts here, but I'd like to know if a 406, currently with out-of-the-box Edelbrock heads, would benefit from a different set of heads? Especially if the goal was (!!horrors!!) pump gas (87 octane, 15% ethanol), power brakes, hydraulic cam with FPA headers. I know, how did I get in the door!?

Meanwhile, this post got buried...

Any opinions?

[Thumperbird]

Maybe it's time for a FE Power Engine Run off?   A FEPER! 
Specify and build a single mule and provide your best head or insert your cam.

[475fetoploader]

That’s already been done. It’s called Engine Master’s Challenge.

[Jb427]

I used bbm cnc heads i will say was great to deal with bbm when i was ordering i am not in the USA but it was pain free i had them set up for roller camshaft and milled for t&d race rockers and had the rockers come with the heads i also had them flow tested here i didn't think they flowed bad some one posted a link in this section to there test mine flowed pretty much the same around 348cfm at .700 lift mine backed up at .800 lift and started flowing after that. They are a good head i payed for mine due to shipping import tax and duties. Over all I'm very happy with them

Only thing i regret was not building a cammer maybe down the line ill take the jump.

[chilly460]

I'm really far down the tail of the bell curve of everyone else who posts here, but I'd like to know if a 406, currently with out-of-the-box Edelbrock heads, would benefit from a different set of heads? Especially if the goal was (!!horrors!!) pump gas (87 octane, 15% ethanol), power brakes, hydraulic cam with FPA headers. I know, how did I get in the door!?

Meanwhile, this post got buried...

Any opinions?

Yes, you’ll pick up power if going to a set of say BBMs or TFS.  That said, you can get your Edelbrocks ported and a decent valve job and likely pick up as well for less $$.   I did pick up 40rwhp switching from pocket ported Edelbrocks to BBMs (swapped small roller at the time but it had the same duration as the flat tappet that was in it).  Car picked up 10mph in the 1/4

[Katz427]

IMO I would have someone knowledgeable port the heads you have. You can get a pair of BBM heads, maybe Survival, other than that everything appears to be "out of stock", and the promise date keeps getting pushed farther out. I've been buying "used" stuff when I find it just to keep things moving along. I just tell people, " if you want it now, you will have to locate some thing used". Otherwise wait, and it could be a long wait.

[1968galaxie]

That’s already been done. It’s called Engine Master’s Challenge.

Our very own Blair Patrick won his class with an all iron 400" 390 based engine. C4AE cylinder heads, 4.098 bore and 3.79 stroke  crank. Trick Flow single plane intake. 10.5:1 CR.

596 HP @ 7100 rpm and 512.9 ft lbs @ 5500 rpm. 0.600" lift roller camshaft - single beehive springs (mild roller cam)

Fantastic results for FE iron - retaining iron 390 heads!
A 445" stroker with this combination would be near 650 HP or perhaps more.

https://www.motortrend.com/features/iron-ford-390-fe-makes-596-hp-using-stock-heads/#007-2019-engine-masters-blair-patrick

An FE built with the right combination of parts can be very competitive with other engine platforms from any manufacturer.

[frnkeore]

Here's a challenge............ A neutral party puts together a FE block assy and a intake & carb combo (mild or wild), with known parts. Sends it to each of the 3 or 5, top FE builders, for them to work their magic on. Dyno it at one location, with all builders present, each time.

[chilly460]

Who's going to referee when the oil slinger argument breaks out in the dyno cell? 

We'd have to make a list of forbidden topics just to get through the day:

- Rocker stand tins
- Valley tray omission
- Right Stuff vs TA31
- Standard vs High Volume oil pumps
- Solid roller lifters on hydraulic cam
- Lifter preload amounts
- Cork end seals vs RTV
- Seals and nails vs RTV rear main seal
- Torque wrench vs stretch gauge
- Head studs vs head bolts
- Main girdles
- Glyptal
- Intake/exhaust lobe split
- Nail head vs tulip
- Imported heads
- Imported rods
- Flat tappet break-in procedures
- Windage trays
- Ginger vs Mary-Anne
- Was it Brady or was it Belichik

Think of all the fun!!

[frnkeore]

I guess I should add, NO FIREARMS ALLOWED

[475fetoploader]

I guess I should add, NO FIREARMS ALLOWED


No, we don’t want to allow that. It will run into who has the best platform/caliber,  who reloads the best, who shoots the best, then when we leave the dyno room, we will have to go to the range.  Then we’ll have to bbq a brisket. Who has the best bbq sauce, how to you cut a brisket properly?  Let’s go fishing, my setup is better, my boats better, my boat has truck flows, my boats faster it has cnc heads. See where this all leads?

[WConley]

I guess I should add, NO FIREARMS ALLOWED

Only Super Soakers filled with high ZDDP break-in oil 

[gdaddy01]

I am going with Mary-Anne .

[MeanGene]

Sweetie!