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even around the intake ports, what is your favorite technique to get the intake loose?   With silicone, that intake really gets stuck on there.  I usually put a large screwdriver way on the drivers side of the china wall and tap it in with a mallet to break the seal.  Takes quite a bit of tapping.  LOL  Not too many places to get some leverage on a Victor.  Must be an easier way.

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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2013, 05:04:37 PM »
I use my engine hoist and a lift plate that attaches to the carb mounting area.  First, pad the area you don't want to possible get damaged when the intake comes loose with blankets, cardboard, etc.  Take all the intake bolts and dizzy out, then lift it up with the engine hoist until the the front end of the car starts rising.  I know there is tension on it then.  Next, I start rapping on the intake with a heavy rubber mallet to help break the seal.  I've had buddies sit on the front bumper, and also pried on the thermostat housing (don't do if it's aluminum.) if the mallet didn't work.  Might not be the best way, but when you use The Right Stuff to put the intake on, that intake is stuck on there good!
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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2013, 08:37:40 PM »
I use TA-31 - the Right Stuff seems to be tougher to remove....

I razor blade the end seals first and then use a big chisel or screwdriver to wedge the intake up at one corner.  Usually works with just a couple taps and no visible damage.

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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2013, 10:31:25 PM »
Thanks for the ideas.  The regular gray silicone might stick more than the Ford version.  Might give the Ford stuff a try.  Wonder how far an intake can fly when it lets loose under tension from an engine hoist?  :)

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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2013, 11:38:39 PM »
Hasn't flown anywhere yet after doing that with fe intakes twice.  First time was to take the Offenhauser 360 off, and the second time was to take the Blue Thunder off after I realized that the valley pan was still in the parts washer instead of under the intake manifold (duh).  I go slow, and you can hear it starting to break loose.  Once it loose, you can pry it the rest of the way off.  Maybe I've just been lucky?
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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2013, 06:55:07 AM »
The engine hoist way works real good, Thats how I do it when I can. I just put a little tention on it and let it sit a few min. it pops right off. no flying involved !

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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2013, 08:58:38 AM »
Afret,
You pretty much to use a engine hoist to get it broke loose.  Otherwise a prybar in the water outlet may help get it started.

For reinstall I use permatex #1 aviation sealant.  It works well with the intake gasket, and doesn't stick like silicone.  Plus it's a lot less time to clean up.

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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2013, 04:39:26 PM »
Is the Permatex #1 the non hardening stuff?

Might try this next time.  Just need to make an end for it that won't gouge the cast iron block.


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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2013, 07:37:56 PM »
I thought I stuck mine on pretty good but maybe not compared to what some of you guys must be doing, holy cow!  I have a smallish ball peen hammer that the wooden handle will just fit between the head and intake in the big gap between middle cylinders.  Stick the handle down in there a bit and it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to pry up one side and then the other and she's outta there.
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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2013, 08:42:59 PM »
I always just used a prybar between the block rail and a corner of the intake; always seems to work for me...
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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2013, 08:07:49 AM »
Yeah, it is the non-hardening brown goop.  Can comes with a brush.

I still use black rtv on the end rails.
Only advise I'd give with using Permatex #1, is make sure you have intake gaskets that lock into place, it's way too easy to slide the gasket around when installing intake otherwise.

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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2013, 02:49:49 PM »
Yeah, it is the non-hardening brown goop.  Can comes with a brush.

I still use black rtv on the end rails.
Only advise I'd give with using Permatex #1, is make sure you have intake gaskets that lock into place, it's way too easy to slide the gasket around when installing intake otherwise.

I guess it won't work with the gaskets I use.

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Re: Those that use sealer on both sides of the intake gasket........
« Reply #12 on: March 16, 2013, 07:42:30 AM »
Last intake I did was with the Edelbrock intake gaskets that lack those tabs.  It's possible, it just is harder :-)  Freakin Fe intakes are a pain.... gotta give ole JayB some credit again for swapping 400 of them.

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with a bit of oil film so that the silicone RTV sealent does not hold as well as it can. Having been a fan of aquariums I understand silicone is used to hold literally hundreds of pounds per inch in fish tanks with glass to glass. The thought of silicone getting a grip on all the surface area of an intake manifold...................................

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with a bit of oil film so that the silicone RTV sealent does not hold as well as it can. Having been a fan of aquariums I understand silicone is used to hold literally hundreds of pounds per inch in fish tanks with glass to glass. The thought of silicone getting a grip on all the surface area of an intake manifold...................................

No point of using silicone if you put oil on the surface so it won't adhere and seal.  Would't waste the silicone.