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BattlestarGalactic

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Rough day at the track......
« on: July 05, 2020, 08:36:57 AM »
For the first time in like 10 years I was able to get some real test and tuning done yesterday.  With my new found power in the last few years I needed to try to get the chassis working better.  The local 1/8 mile track was having TnT Fri, sat, and sun so I took advantage of it.  With only like 20 cars running you could do whatever you wanted, and since this track has been marginal for traction it was a good choice to dial in some traction.

I made my first baseline pass. It spun a bit but wasn't tragic(about normal).  I got to the trailer and tightened up the rebound on the rear shocks like 10 clicks(big change).  Went right back out and the 60 ft picked up .03.  So I put the shocks full tight and tried again to see another improvement.  I was on the right track!

Now, there was a bit of a left hand pull on the launch, making me have to steer it when the front wheels touched.  Since the car typically didn't do this I blamed the track surface.

I then try to loosen the front up some.  It typically liked it slowed down some, I had 10 clicks in it(out of 16).  I again made a big change....I turned them to 0 clicks (full loose).   Can you see the bad decision???

I come out of the water, and like typical as I push in the clutch the tires will bite and the car will try to pull the front wheels(I've been told it has on occasion).  It seemed a bit more radical this time.  I quickly realized this may not be a good idea.  But......naaa, it has wheelie bars, we're fine.  Lol!!!  I left like I had previously only to find it went vertical, like right now!!  And it was turning left!!  Oh crap, this isn't good.  I quickly grab second gear to try to settle it down.  It did, but I was peddling it also and that was too much and it fell to earth....HARD!  Ouch....... I felt it in my back.  I gathered it up and completed the pass.  I get to the timing shack( I shut it off and coasted up).  I turned on the ignition and the fan was making rattling noises.  The fellow at the shack says "that's not good".  Ya.  I quickly get to my spot and check the damages.  My fan had ripped loose, dropped down and bent the blades and promptly started to chop away at my radiator to the tune of 5 different holes spraying water.  Oops.

So, I load up, remove the radiator, and head home.  I found a replacement radiator at Summit, which I will get today.  I did a quick check on the front end and everything seems okay.  I do have quite a buckle in the front of the oil pan. Luckily the oil pickup is in the rear of the sump and that area isn't damaged.  I had talked to the starter and he said I took quite a chunk of concrete out when I hit right on the edge of the track surface( next to the grass).

So, what did I learn??  I found the optimal shock settings to make the car hook on ice!!!  Just need to lower/tighten up the wheelie bars AND keep the front shocks tightened up!!

Another friend with a stick shift Cuda did the same thing trying to get his new power dialed in.  He clobbered the pan and bent up the front chassis(chassis car).  He told me my bad karma took him out!!  He had told me after my oops that his bars are real low and tight.  Hmm, guess not enough??  He made his last pass after me.

The trials and tribulations of running a heavy, small tire stick car.  The crazy part was the car was repeating ET like a dragster.  Two 6.792 in a row.  Not shabby.
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Larry

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Re: Rough day at the track......
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2020, 08:43:43 AM »
Sorry to hear, but sounds like it could have been MUCH worse. 

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Re: Rough day at the track......
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2020, 09:24:48 AM »
Ouch! Yeah, it could have been worse.

I had a strip of white tape, maybe 1" wide, wrapped around the the top of the steering wheel on a racer. Idea was when the front went airborne, I knew if the tape was straight up at 12 o'clock, the wheels would be straight upon landing. 
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Re: Rough day at the track......
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2020, 09:41:24 AM »
Anyone catch it on film?

   I was beginning to fear the worst of you rolling the battle wagon. Glad it was minor damage.
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Re: Rough day at the track......
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2020, 09:46:23 AM »
I can feel the car move in the air and I typically don't "steer" it while in the air(like I said, typically goes straight as an arrow).  The previous pass I had to gather it up bad enough just being up in the air like normal(front tires about a foot in the air).  There was talk at the starting line about who that guy was driving the car and the track owners son points to me and says "It's him".   :o

I had told the Son(he's my age) about the "steering" issue and he mentioned not having enough cars here to get enough rubber down.  I suppose that is plausible?  I never changed lanes so I can't compare that.  My friend with the Cuda mentioned his was drifting left also.

If I had not peddled it enough and let it carry it out,  I would have likely been right up into the grass and Armco guard rail!  I made a split second decision and I think for the $200 cost I did the right thing.  The grass might have been a softer landing though initially(except for the guard rail)?  I just rechecked the oil pan and it has a doink in it, but it is not leaking.  I really need to build a buffer plate of some nature on the chassis to absorb the hit instead of the pan/headers/front motor plate.  The real good thing is the pan is slightly angled forward, so it never gets to the drain plug on the front edge..  The plug is now just slightly bowed upward above the lower surface.

As for pictures?  There were a couple guys taking pictures, not sure who they were or if they will post them?
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Re: Rough day at the track......
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2020, 05:32:29 PM »
do you use an anti roll bar set up?


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Re: Rough day at the track......
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2020, 05:38:14 PM »
Wheelies are fun... perhaps the landing wasn't. Yes, we need pictures or video.

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Re: Rough day at the track......
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2020, 10:22:25 AM »
do you use an anti roll bar set up?

No anti roll bar.  No need for it with ladder bars, though I know a couple cars that do have it.  My opinion is that is a band aide for something else that is wrong with the chassis.   I know 4 link cars run them, but that is a totally different suspension.

My car leaves straight unless there is issue with the starting line.

I did a little investigating this morning and I think I need to pull the engine and repair the pan.  It's not broken or leaking, but it is crinkled pretty bad and I have concerns with oil pump pickup being too close now.  Better safe then sorry with a brand new motor.  The shop straightened it out last summer for me, though I gave them grief because I know it was just going to get smacked again(didn't think I would do it that hard this time).  It's bent back against the tube crossmember behind the pan.  Bit worse then I first thought.  I picked up a couple pan gaskets this morning. 
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