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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2020, 10:33:17 AM »
What does a vineyard estate and ice cream have to do with state has prices?

High pension costs for a bloated government maybe...


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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2020, 10:47:22 AM »
What does a vineyard estate and ice cream have to do with state has prices?

High pension costs for a bloated government maybe...

His name is MeneGene.... maybe he is just angry

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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2020, 10:57:27 AM »
What does a vineyard estate and ice cream have to do with state gas prices?

High pension costs for a bloated government maybe...

His name is MeneGene.... maybe he is just angry

Does his anger extend to puppies and rainbows?  What's his problem with wine and ice cream? Is it some esoteric pairing issue? Is he lactose intolerant?
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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2020, 02:05:43 PM »
Regular is still $2.00 a gallon in New Jersey. :o

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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2020, 02:16:29 PM »
         It could be early stages of Camaro 19.Sure hope not.

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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2020, 04:06:13 PM »
WTI is under 10 right now, was -40 yesterday and mostly around -25 all day.  West Texas is going from the great guns, worlds #1 producer to basically a vacant building.  Even when our track opens car counts are going to be super light because a large amount of our people, especially the fast cars, are oil patch related.  Either work in the patch or own companies that service the patch. Unemployment filings here have been light, but this will change that is a bunch of ways unseen right now.  Saudi claims they can run at sup $20 prices for several years, so this likely isn't going to end soon. 

And yes, the main storage locations are about to run out, and I've been told some companies have already paid to move it.  Hence the major crater of price.

Long way between market price of crude and the gas pump.  Besides, if you could buy 10,000 gallons for your highway stop-n-go for 0.50 and sell it to people happy it's only $1.50, you'd be fool not to.  Not that I know what gas futures are.  Well - "Reformulated Gasoline Blendstock for Oxygen Blending" futures are selling at 0.59.  But looks like you have to contract for 42,000 gallons to get that price.
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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2020, 03:31:10 PM »
Interesting comments

The shocking collapse in US oil to $-40 added an exclamation point to the problem facing the industry. Oil futures require that holders of a contract take delivery of barrels when the contract expires. But no one wanted to get crude delivered to them in May when storage capacity may run out. Even if it doesn't run out, storage costs have skyrocketed.
"Holders of May contracts were effectively willing to pay someone to get them out of their long positions...to avoid being physically delivered crude oil next month," Goldman Sachs analyst Damien Courvalin wrote in a note to clients Monday.

Mizuho analyst Paul Sankey said Tuesday US oil futures could "quite possibly" crash to $-100 in May.
"The physical reality of oil is that it is difficult to handle, volatile, potentially polluting and actually useless without a refinery," Sankey wrote in a report to clients. "If you had a stinking barrel of oil in your back yard, would you pay someone $100/barrel to take it away? Yes, and you would probably be relieved you were not charged $300."

And the prediction is that if it lasts a bit, when demand comes back there will be a shortage and prices will shoot up.  Maybe.  Unless we have a flare up and we go back to shelter status, then there would be another crash.  Whooboy, what a year.

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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2020, 03:48:44 PM »
For storage, can't they pump it back into the ground like they store some gases?

What companies that store oil can we invest in as revenues for them should be rising?

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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2020, 04:13:34 PM »
Having been around the industry a good bit....
I think you underestimate the size of all this.
Yeah, sure, a few 100,000 barrels no problem, but the infrastructure cannot handle the massive amounts produced if it has no where to go.
Stopping a well isn’t just turning a valve either. Heck of a pickle to get in.

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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2020, 08:05:49 AM »
The big oil companies have been gouging us for years. I say let them eat it. I do however, feel bad for the guys and gals drilling, producing and shipping it.
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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2020, 08:32:55 AM »
Regular is .99 where I'm at. Premium is $1.99. There used to be a spread of only .20 between regular and premium. That doesn't happen anymore.

I do however, feel bad for the guys and gals drilling, producing and shipping it.

 Once the weather breaks a little bit, I'ma gonna do my best to get those people back to work!  ;D
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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2020, 08:46:45 AM »
Still high IMO here in the collar county of Chicago. $1.89 for regular here.
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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2020, 11:58:43 AM »
The big oil companies have been gouging us for years. I say let them eat it. I do however, feel bad for the guys and gals drilling, producing and shipping it.

Sadly, potentially hundreds of companies will file Chapter 7 or 11 because of this.  Guess who will be there with the cash to buy the leases and/or whats left.  Exxon/Mobile, Chevron, Conoco, etc

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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2020, 06:03:56 PM »
Still high IMO here in the collar county of Chicago. $1.89 for regular here.

Just rub it in just rub it in ;D try over  $4,20 for regular



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Re: Oil for less than a buck a barrel?
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2020, 06:27:36 PM »
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