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james

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Need an estimated for sale price for a friend.
« on: August 22, 2019, 04:57:56 PM »
A friend who passed a way receintly wanted to sell a 1970 Ford Torinio 429SCJ. Will post some pictures starting with the following. Btw, car does not have a data plate but the vin # is OR38j131432  The vin looks like it has the letter F in front of # and the same letter F at the end of the vin#

https://i.imgur.com/wQZKoFo.jpg  https://i.imgur.com/7pgRpDy.jpg https://i.imgur.com/cEvzaFU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Yk5nF37.jpg  https://i.imgur.com/QQMOJZl.jpg  https://i.imgur.com/43an9b4.jpg

Thanks for your help!
« Last Edit: August 22, 2019, 05:06:57 PM by james »

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Re: Need an estimated for sale price for a friend.
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2019, 08:01:26 AM »
VIN decodes as "R" San Jose plant, "38" 2-dr FsBk Cpe-6P  Torino GT Cobra, "J" 429-4V Cobra Jet Ram Air, build number 31432 for the year.   So looks legit there anyhow.  Love to have a car like that.

https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/ford/torino-cobra

Somewhere between 35 and 60K I'd guess. 
« Last Edit: August 23, 2019, 08:04:16 AM by Falcon67 »

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Re: Need an estimated for sale price for a friend.
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2019, 02:18:20 PM »
Remember when i was with a friend to a cardealer that had one like that
same colour and all. Wanted 3000$ for it had some visibel rust issues  in
the chassie, new paint, 460 shortblock with the SCJ heads,intake,exhaust
the dataplate from the door post was removed. But the vin matched a SCJ
and the title
I asked for it he said it was gone when he got
the car. He lied beacuse i saw the alu chips on the ground from when he
drilled the rivets ???so no deal. This was mayby 15 years ago shoul have
bought it....but at the moment i was not that impressed by the look today
i realy like them
« Last Edit: August 23, 2019, 02:49:35 PM by Heo »



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Re: Need an estimated for sale price for a friend.
« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2019, 02:48:04 PM »
Yeah, you need to determine the quality of the car (perfect, minor issues, needs some work, etc.) and then look at all the websites, and there are many, that offer a similar muscle car rides. Not hard to do, just takes some time.
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Re: Need an estimated for sale price for a friend.
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2019, 12:04:53 AM »
Remember when i was with a friend to a cardealer that had one like that
same colour and all. Wanted 3000$ for it had some visibel rust issues  in
the chassie, new paint, 460 shortblock with the SCJ heads,intake,exhaust
the dataplate from the door post was removed. But the vin matched a SCJ
and the title
I asked for it he said it was gone when he got
the car. He lied beacuse i saw the alu chips on the ground from when he
drilled the rivets ???so no deal. This was mayby 15 years ago shoul have
bought it....but at the moment i was not that impressed by the look today
i realy like them

No metal tag on the ‘70 torino. So no rivets drilled.

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Re: Need an estimated for sale price for a friend.
« Reply #5 on: August 24, 2019, 12:54:20 AM »
Hole for the rivets  and a square that was not re painted
and chips on the ground so some kind of tag was removed from
the door post what ever it was. If it was sold new in Sweden maybe
they demanded a riveted metal tag i dont know
« Last Edit: August 24, 2019, 12:57:29 AM by Heo »



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Re: Need an estimated for sale price for a friend.
« Reply #6 on: August 24, 2019, 05:31:37 AM »
I've had two 1970 Torino Twisters, 429 CJ, 4 speed cars, so I have some familiarity with them.  In fact, a picture of one of them was just on here in the "Hot Summer Nights" thread from a couple weeks ago.  There's a great back story to that car.  It's a bit long, so I'll post that at some point down the road. 
For this car in particular, are the engine and transmission both matching numbers?  That's a biggie and will make a big difference in the price.  Not all the engines had the serial number stamped on the rear of the engine block at the factory, so no serial number isn't definitive in and of itself.  Then it becomes a question of what are the date codes for the engine and the heads.  The date codes should be reasonably close to each other, and have to be before the build date on the car.  If the date codes are after the build date of the car and there's no serial number on the block, it's might be a replacement service block, or another engine without an original serial number.  If there's a serial number on the block that doesn't match the VIN, then the engine has been changed at some point.  Also, Ram Air CJs with a 4 speed should have staggered rear shocks.
If the seller wants top dollar, he needs to do the usual things; put the mirrors on it, put the radio antenna in, put the decals and emblems on the fenders, put the hubcaps and beauty rings on the tires, etc.  Assuming the body, floors, etc are solid and there's no rust issues, it looks like it should be a # 2 condition car.  For a clean, good running # 2 driver, I think he can realistically get $35,000.

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Re: Need an estimated for sale price for a friend.
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2019, 07:30:40 AM »
No offence meant , but I can see some issues with the car from the photos that would not make it a #2 car.  Like has been mentioned , find out if there are any vin numbers on the trans or motor. Check date codes . Also check for how much work need to be done . Or if there are any poor repairs that have already been made that will need to be redone. I am not knocking the car, just giving my option of  the car.