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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 09:50:42 PM »
That would be way, way cool all right.  I wonder if Adam West and Burt Ward come with it  ;D
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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2012, 03:11:10 AM »
If I remember right the first Batmobile has Ford origins... A Lincoln maybe?  If so an MEL engine probably already fits, so a Cammer might just drop in too  :D
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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2012, 09:09:02 AM »
FYI the first Batmobile was derived from the 1955 Lincoln Futura concept car.  George Barris converted it from Futura to Batmobile no. 1 in the space of 15 days or so I read... So my MEL theory holds!   8)
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 11:42:40 AM »
Yes, it has a MEL engine as noted in other car magazines.

Funny though, I never knew until now that the Futura concept car (see video) formed the basis of the Batcar. Most other links merely stated that a Lincoln was used and I assumed (hah!) that a production line passenger car was used  and cut up to look like the Futura. Silly me! Still, I wonder how/why Ford let the concept car go to Barris as this was and still is quite unusual.

Volo's well-known car museum in Volo, IL (they sell and trade too) has a copy of the Batcar on display. It's often on display outside right off Rte 12 about 1 block east of the actual museum. It's resting on a simple steel frame w/o an engine/trans etc. but it is a faithful fiberglass replica in darned good shape. Would be cool to outfit it with a modern SuperGas class chassis (flip-top like the old Comets) and race it! 

http://volocars.com/
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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2012, 02:33:09 AM »
Here's the link to the article on the SpeedTv website about the Batmobile "nĂºmero UNO" and that Barrett-Jackson will auction it. So there's your chance guys!  ;D

http://automotive.speedtv.com/article/vintage-the-original-batmobile-up-for-auction-at-barrett-jackson/
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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2012, 05:53:42 PM »
I'm pretty sure it has an FE in it.
I remember seeing a old BW pic of the engine.

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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #7 on: December 03, 2012, 01:35:26 AM »
Now for the definitive word on the Batmobile!  Of course the car has its own website... http://www.1966batmobile.com/engine.jpg. I copied the link here on the engine which is said to be a "390 ci V8". In the picture it looks to be a 65 vintage (black and gold with the squarish valve covers) which would make sense given when it was put into service as the Batmobile.  Other good trivia is the car's timeline which is also on the site.  Enjoy!
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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #8 on: December 03, 2012, 09:50:48 AM »
I've no doubt that the pic above does show "a Batmobile" with an FE.

However, there were at least 3 other complete running Batmobiles built after the 1st one, all by Barris and IIRC one by someone else much later. Then, as in my previous post, many copies were later pulled from the 2nd or 3rd car by a fiberglass body maker, rumored to be the old funny car body maker Fiberglass Trends Co.  Many engineless copies on rolling frames (see Volo Auto Museum site) were made and shown at car shows. In fact, I remember seeing a Batmobile on the same weekend at two different car shows!

I did see pics of the 1st car long ago indicating a MEL was used in the Futura concept car while the Batcar was under construction. But it could have been a dummy engine (hey that's what show cars sometimes get) that later could have been switched to the more current late '64-early '65 FE design. Not a biggie in my book as it was rare to ever see the hood up. If the switch was made, it was likely due to more hp and easier parts availabilty. JMO.

http://www.1966batmobile.com/
 
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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #9 on: December 03, 2012, 10:02:50 AM »
This is from that website so that pretty much says it.


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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2012, 07:45:57 AM »
A photo collection of the original Batmobile from the SpeedTv website... Including photos of the Futura concept car; George Barris, the Batmobile's creator; and even Adam and Burt! 

http://photos.speedtv.com/gallery/AUTOS_Origin_Of_Batmobile.
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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2012, 09:28:29 AM »
Hey, that's the best yet collection of Batmobile pics!
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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2012, 10:37:36 PM »
I could have sworn it was a 71 Buick Riviera , I had two GSs at one time.

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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2013, 02:44:41 AM »
Holy Greenbacks!  The Batmobile sold for $4.2 mil!  http://automotive.speedtv.com/article/vintage-holy-bidding-the-batmobile-hits-42-million-at-barrett-jackson1.  Hope you enjoy...
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Re: Wow, a must add to your collection Jay!
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2013, 08:54:27 AM »
Amazing what some of those famous cars can go for, although I guess that price doesn't really surprise me.  I wonder how tough it would be to duplicate that car?  You think there'd be a market for a kit car version of the Batmobile, starting with an old Lincoln and including a bunch of fiberglass parts, the windscreens, etc.  Maybe we could get Crites to do it  ;D
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