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Re: Trailer Tires
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2018, 06:19:28 PM »
Winter doesn't mean much here...

I think things may be a bit different in Minnesota  ;D
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Re: Trailer Tires
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2018, 10:08:02 PM »
Toyo and Cooper have a stiffer wall than Uniroyal, Goodyear and Michelin. My preference is Cooper. Many good responses concerning max inflation. I would buy the stock 235/85R16 LT, load range E, for my truck and would cycle the used truck tires to the trailer. Not likely that senerio would work on an enclosed trailer.


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« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2018, 10:12:15 PM »
Whatever you decide, please don't buy a trailer that uses mobile home axles and tires.  Those tires and axles are junk for the most part.  I had a gooseneck with those axles, and always had issues with holding air, balance problems, and brakes not working properly.  My other trailers since that time have had at least 8-10 ply tires that run 90-110 psi, and no issues.  I use a 750 lb Reese anti-sway bar hitch, with no swaying problems and it helps level any load you may add to the trailer.  I never trust the bumper hitch, even though some do, and run a frame mounted hitch rated for the truck's maximum towing capability.  Joe-JDC
Did your dad have you hauling tractors and hay with a mobile home axle gooseneck trailer? Sounds familiar those rims were bad about poping off when making a loaded corner.
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Re: Trailer Tires
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2018, 08:40:12 AM »

I think things may be a bit different in Minnesota  ;D

That's a "I'm sure"   ;D  But in summer, sure is pretty up there.  Been in that general area several times, can say Indian words like "Minnetonka" and "Menomonee Falls".

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« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2018, 02:51:08 PM »


- ST type trailer tires have a stiffer sidewall and are rated for heavier loads than passenger car or light truck tires, so they come standard on new trailers.  I've read where they should be replaced every 3-5 years, and you don't ever want to run them under-inflated.   A lot of people seem to hate the ST tires, because they claim they fail easily and early.  There are quite a few reports of these tires failing in about 1000 miles, and I've also read that all of the radial trailer tires are now made in China.  These people will recommend a light truck or passenger car tire rather than an ST trailer tire, say they pull better and last longer. 

- All the new trailers seem to come with 15" wheels and tires, but a couple people I know say that 15" trailer tires are junk, and that I should upgrade to 16" tires because they are much better.

Your thoughts?

To keep a long story short, I pretty much agree with the above.  I switched my trailer tires from 15" ST's to 16" LT's and very glad I did.  The 16" LT tires have greater safety margin for load and speed rating.  There is also a much larger selection of 16" LT's than there is 15" ST's.  Lot of the heavier trailers and campers come with 16" LT's.

If I was only poking around the county on local roads, I'd likely stay with the 15" ST's.  But for flying down the interstate/out of state, I feel better with 16" LT's.
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« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2018, 06:04:26 PM »
How many wheel bolt patterns are there? Are the bolt patterns based upon axle load rating? Is switching from 15" five lug to 16" five lug as simple as buying wheels and tires?

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Re: Trailer Tires
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2018, 06:25:06 PM »
I think by now I've run well over 100K miles pulling a few different enclosed trailers.  If you are buying a new unit and can spec it out, order 8000 lb axles.  The outer bearing is the weak spot on the lesser axles.  The 8K stuff with bigger brakes and bearings will be your friend long-term.  They will have 16" wheels.  I have one trailer that has the same size tires as my dually, and like Chris said, I run them new on the truck for 20,000 or so and put them on the trailer.  When I do it again, I just throw the trailer set away.  I started doing that in 2004 and have never lost another tire.  I use Michelins.  On my short trailer, I use the Goodyears.  Sidewalls will go way before the tread wears down.
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Re: Trailer Tires
« Reply #22 on: March 21, 2018, 01:31:00 AM »
How many wheel bolt patterns are there? Are the bolt patterns based upon axle load rating? Is switching from 15" five lug to 16" five lug as simple as buying wheels and tires?
I am not aware of any 5 lug trailer wheels made for 16" tires. The common lug patterns are 5 stud 15" on the 3500 Lb axles, 6 stud 15" on the 5200 LB axles, and 8 stud 16 " on the 8000 LB axles. My 15" 6 stud 5200 LB Dexter torsion bar axles have much larger brake drums that a 3500 LB axle, I imagine the 8000 axles are even larger. I have never had any issues with wheel bearings on my 6 stud axles, but I know several guys with the 3500 LB 5 stud axles that have had wheel bearings burn up, and in at least 1 case, the damage was bad enough that he needed to purchase a new axle. Although the 8000 LB axles are really beffy, they are also a bunch heavier. A fair compromise, if ordering a new trailer, is to specify the 5000 LB 6stud axles, with 16" wheels and tires. A buddy did that on his trailer, so the trailer was built with them in mind, so they fit fine, but a downside is the tires are at least 2" taller, so that raises the trailer floor by at least that amount, which means a steeper incline on the rear door, and a more severe "breakover" angle into the dek, which can be a pain with low hanging headers and oil pans. I would think that the majority of trailer tire failures are on rigs that regularily haul very long distances, in hot weather. I know a couple of Super Stock racers who have had blowouts even with 16" LT tires, but they often tow to races over 2000 miles away, in 100+ degree summer temps, stopping only for food, fuel and bathroom breaks.
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Re: Trailer Tires
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2018, 07:57:43 AM »
Jay you are vary handy if it were me I would put Low Boy trailer tires on it they last way longer than any other trailer tires. Leny Mason