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andis65

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anyone know bellhousings????
« on: March 28, 2017, 08:19:25 PM »
hello everyone! I'm a new member and a loyal ford fan. I'm in the middle of construction on a 5 window coupe in which i have a 428 and a toploader 4 speed...I got the engine/trans from my father but he wants the bellhousing back because its the only one he has.. the one that is on it is aluminum and has the older narrow 4 bolt pattern. So i don't have a bellhousing. I see the $700 quicktime sfi approved on-line as well as various ones on ebay. It looks like there are many variables and i want to make sure i don't buy one on ebay that doesn't fit my combo. Anyone know what I'm suppposed to have? I see a C60A and a C5AA among others.. some say you need a small block toploader to adapt because of depth issues! HELP!

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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2017, 10:27:10 PM »
Hey...need to know what 4spd you are using.If its a small block one you can use the readily available and kind of inexpensive C5T truck one as its 3/8 deeper than the automotive one..
Lets start with what trans you have .....
I have never seen a aluminum FE bellhousing..It must be unique or aftermarket...(???)
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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2017, 08:21:30 AM »
Browell (sp?) or Quick Times are probably your two choices , you don't need a SFI unless your racing and going fast , seemed like my QT has multiple trans mounting choices but it's been a few years since I had it apart

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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2017, 08:28:50 AM »
Aluminum is likely an Ansen. You might look for a Lakewood scattershield. Now out of print but there must be some around. I wouldn't use anything except a scattershield.

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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2017, 10:19:16 AM »
The cost of QT has gone through the roof.  Even finding a deal on an older Lakewood is hard to do.

It sounds like you have the early small pattern Toploader.  That also has the smaller pilot diameter on the bearing retainer.   It will likely be tough to find a good bellhousing for that combination.  An early Lakewood might take care of it, but the pilot hole will be larger(like 1/4").  I think a larger bearing retainer will still bolt on the early case?  Been a while since I had to deal with this. 

If you don't plan on hot rodding it, you could get away with finding an old cast bellhousing(early Fe with small bolt pattern).  I typically don't recommend that.  But I understand paying the cost for a blowproof anymore is a hard pill to swallow.
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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2017, 12:52:31 PM »
see if you have the early 25 spline output shaft , you may want to upgrade the trans also .

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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2017, 08:55:38 PM »
Ok, I tried to attach a couple photos. To answer some questions, my toploader tag reads (RUG S  1) and by david kee's ID chart that lists 68 mustang 428. It is in fact the large input shaft I believe only because i have a small block toploader in my 65 falcon and the input shaft in that car has a longer snout and more splines and smaller.

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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2017, 09:01:31 PM »
just noticed you asked me about the output shaft ...not the input shaft. ill look at that

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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2017, 10:51:20 PM »
It should have a 31 spline output..I would look for a used scatter shield or a later stock ford automotive (not C5T) bellhousing..There is always the quick time bellhousing...Depends on your wallet and intended use of the car.
1968 Mustang Fastback...427 MR 5spd (owned since 1977)
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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2017, 01:00:31 AM »
That aluminum bellhousing certainly does not look like any factory Ford bellhousing that I have ever seen. Does it have a brand name on it anywhere?
1978 Fairmont,FE 427 with 428 crank, 4 speed Jerico best of 9.972@132.54MPH 1.29 60 foot
1985 Mustang HB 331 SB Ford, 4 speed Jerico, best of 10.29@128 MPH 1.40 60 foot.
1974 F350 race car hauler 390 NP435 4 speed
1959 Ford Meteor 2 dr sedan. 428 Cobra Jet, 4 speed Toploader. 12.54@ 108 MPH

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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2017, 08:10:57 AM »
That aluminum bell' looks like a mighty rare piece. Perhaps you can talk Dad into having you sell same on E-Bay, split the revenue and use your end to fund for a QuickTime bell. Just a thought.......
« Last Edit: March 30, 2017, 01:46:19 PM by machoneman »
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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2017, 11:52:03 AM »
If you have a RUG-S for a 68 Mustang/Shelby $$$, look for a vin stamp on the top of the front ears. You might possibly get enough out of that trans to buy you another one plus a bellhousing.

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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2017, 08:34:01 PM »
That's a RC Industries aluminum bellhousing used in the 64 Thunderbolts and Lightweight Galaxies. 

The last two RUG S toploaders I've seen sold for $1600 to $2000.  They might be shown on DK website as a 68 Mustang, but an S is a 68 Shelby GT500 trans.

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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2017, 04:51:50 PM »
Really.... I guarantee my father has no idea. He has just spent decades collecting Ford parts he thought he could use someday... The older he gets (73 now), the more he realizes he probably will never use this stuff.

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Re: anyone know bellhousings????
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2017, 05:33:00 PM »
That bell i made for coupe with a FE swet talk your daddy in to a deal of some kind ;D



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