FE and FT Factory Displacements

[120mm]

Actually, further research reveals this could be a "Super Duty" and someone just replaced the air cleaner lid with an FE one that happened to fit. Am curious, though, about the existence of of the 360 FT.

[chris401]

UHaul 330MD small snout (352/360) crank. Here is a picture of such a timing cover that is for HD cooling systems but can be used on either large or small snout crankshafts. It only depends which seal you use. Large crank seal drives in from the back and small crank seal drives in from the front. I pulled this from a mixed matched 71 360 pickup long block in my running 1948 Metropolitan bus-motor home conversion.

[chris401]

Here is a 1959 Edsel 361 FE. Like the MEL valve cover ratings the 361 E400 rating was only used in 1958.

[chris401]

According to the article 361 FE was also an early option in Ford Police cars.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182/thread/1458241169/last-1458340863/View+Thread

[machoneman]

What's funny is Jay was merely trying to help out the author and it seems we've all uncovered wildly contradictory information. No wonder when car guy books get published readers point out tons of errors....and some aren't errors but no one can prove it.

Yikes! 

[Royce]

Chris, that front cover is almost an exact match for a Lincoln Y block, which would be a 332 in trucks.  330 MD had the water pump integral with the cover??

[chris401]

Chris, that front cover is almost an exact match for a Lincoln Y block, which would be a 332 in trucks.  330 MD had the water pump integral with the cover??

You know more than I do, I have only seen one 332 Y yeas ago. This aftermarket water pump has no Ford markings and looks just like I remember the 391 dump trucks. Do you think Ford carried over that same waterpump from the Lincoln Y block days till the end of the UHaul FT?

Cover is packed away and the date code is too fuzzy blown up on my phone. Can you read the date code?

[chris401]

Chris, that front cover is almost an exact match for a Lincoln Y block, which would be a 332 in trucks.  330 MD had the water pump integral with the cover??

Contact Sam M. or maybe he will post here. He is the one that told me where this likely came from. Due to being half hidden I bet more people have seen this cover but didn't know it.

[Royce]

The fact that the casting number is C4 and 332s were last used in 63 makes me think it is not the Lincoln.. but the cover sure looks like a Lincoln. I have never been around the FT series much at all so I hesitate to make any pronouncements.

[CaptCobrajet]

I have two or three of those FT setups with the iron crank/small snout.  The two I took apart were 330MD, and  had small snout iron cranks.  I think that was where they were used like that.  Never saw a 361/391 with an iron crank.  There were three cooling setups in heavy trucks.  The "normal" FE type timng cover with a big seal hole, the one in Chris' pics, and the heavy duty cooling with the big seal hole for the steel cranks.  I used to sell parts to CSX and Norfolk Southern for all three ideas.  Some HD stuff even had dual thermostats just in case one failed..... they had a big square cast box that held the two thermostats.  Okay, I'm off track now, but they really made some SUPER DUTY FT stuff way before Ford recoined the logo in the late 90's. 

[chris401]

The fact that the casting number is C4 and 332s were last used in 63 makes me think it is not the Lincoln.. but the cover sure looks like a Lincoln. I have never been around the FT series much at all so I hesitate to make any pronouncements.

My post are relatively short but the explanation is there above the pictures. I posted from a cell phone, is the font very small compared to a post done by computer? It all looks the same size on my Samsung but if it is too small I will see if I can change it.

[chris401]

The fact that the casting number is C4 and 332s were last used in 63 makes me think it is not the Lincoln.. but the cover sure looks like a Lincoln. I have never been around the FT series much at all so I hesitate to make any pronouncements.

My post are relatively short but the explanation is there above the pictures. I posted from a cell phone, is the font very small compared to a post done by computer? It all looks the same size on my Samsung but if it is too small I will see if I can change it.

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[wsu0702]

Chris, that front cover is almost an exact match for a Lincoln Y block, which would be a 332 in trucks.  330 MD had the water pump integral with the cover??

Not even close to an exact match but they are of a similar design with the integral water pump housing.  Here is a pic of the Lincoln Y-block front timing cover.  Yes the 330 MD came with the FT specific C4TE cover that Chris posted a pic of above.  I always thought that there were big snout and small snout versions of this FT front timing cover but from what Chris is saying Ford designed it to accommodate the 2 different diameter seals from the start.  Very interesting thanks Chris! 

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[Royce]

I think that is a Ford Y block front cover.  The Lincoln does not flare out at the bottom and is thinner  It also does not have the the passage in the top of the water pump cavity.  EBU should be for a 54 239 car engine, probably pickups too

[Royce]

This is the Lincoln cover.