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Royce

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Love this car
« on: December 13, 2016, 09:35:59 AM »
Royce P needs to add this to his collection...Love this car. Wish i had a home for it...  It would need a J. Brown cammer of course

http://www.racingjunk.com/Mercury/182725972/1969-Mercury-Cougar.html#2
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: Love this car
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2016, 10:05:56 AM »
Always gets me with Pro-Street. There's 4-5 that regularly show up at the monthly Cruise In: Loud as hell, spewing race gas fumes, slightly stepping on it - which is a big HERE I AM/LOOK AT ME to the crowd and Cops.    Going deep into the hard core race parts bin while under the guise of street legal (20 miles on it) .  Nothing indicates it's been on a race track.   Learning from Jay about the fine-print of Drag Week. Do I dare say it's safe to say it would be lost there?

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Re: Love this car
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2016, 10:40:47 AM »
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Loud as hell, spewing race gas fumes, slightly stepping on it - which is a big HERE I AM/LOOK AT ME to the crowd and Cops.    Going deep into the hard core race parts bin while under the guise of street legal (20 miles on it) .  Nothing indicates it's been on a race track

And the problem with this is?   

I love the smell of race gas.. As far as cruise ins...  A well done. snarling. prostreet car is far more interesting than a primped (or pimped) and pampered 55 Chevy. that usually populate those gatherings
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: Love this car
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2016, 11:03:05 AM »
I don't find tooo much fault with it - but

"Holley Blue pump" - that's a 110 GPH pump, feeding an 880 CFM Dominator.  Doesn't say it's a stroker, so that's kinda unique carb for a 351.  The pump will work, but marginal if you are really hammering on it.  The "3500 stall" converter also says street more than strip but it's paired with 4.88 gears (which help with the big Mickeys) which is about equ to a 4.11 with 28" tires.
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Re: Love this car
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2016, 11:30:27 AM »
Why am I thinking Drag Week. 8)
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Re: Love this car
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2016, 12:25:10 PM »
Nice car, but too much money.  Also, why does everybody have to put one of those GM-ish hood scoops on their car?  Not an attractive look, IMO...
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Love this car
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2016, 12:28:08 PM »
With the AFRs I'd tend to believe the HP.

"spent another 8 grand putting a set of bad ass AFD aluminum heads on the car" - I have a set of AFD bare 4V heads, cost me $1600.  WTF.  Even if I bought new valves (have Manleys already) I'd not hit $2100 with everything.

Does not discuss the cam at all, which is weird because he details almost every other part used on the car.  It for sure has lots of good pieces for a Drag Week type of beating.  If done right you'd have to work hard to break anything other than the block at 650 HP.  I'd move to a 4000~4400 stall converter depending on the cam, bet that would add a few tenths and lower the 60' times a bit.  And an extra trans cooler/fan for the road. 

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Re: Love this car
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2016, 12:30:53 PM »
Nice car, but too much money.  Also, why does everybody have to put one of those GM-ish hood scoops on their car?  Not an attractive look, IMO...

I had an "L88" on the Falcon for a long time.  Worked well.  Then one day while at the Dairy Queen getting a small dipped cone, a guy is looking over the car on the trailer.  Says "Nice Nova".   :o  Got home, unloaded the car, called in an order to Crites for a tear drop scoop, got out the die grinder and cut that L88 scoop right off the hood.

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Re: Love this car
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2016, 12:50:58 PM »
Jay, forever the purist  lol.. I don't like the hood either. A checkbook rodder for sure.. I am sure he does have 100K in it...  Not really a drag week player.. Front struts puts it in unlimited.. But it sure is a looker.. Lots of details I would do differently, but it looks like a real clean pro build.
Blown cammer, then you could play in unlimited.  Test bed for Jay's twin turbo...  Lets see what is your area code Jay?  Top 5 car in the 952?  Damn if i could just trade my 32 Ford for it.....
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

jayb

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Re: Love this car
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2016, 03:01:45 PM »

I had an "L88" on the Falcon for a long time.  Worked well.  Then one day while at the Dairy Queen getting a small dipped cone, a guy is looking over the car on the trailer.  Says "Nice Nova".   :o  Got home, unloaded the car, called in an order to Crites for a tear drop scoop, got out the die grinder and cut that L88 scoop right off the hood.

Attaboy!   ;D ;D ;D
Jay Brown
- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Love this car
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2016, 09:39:27 PM »
Gotta agree with Jay, I hate seeing cowl hoods on Fords or MoPars, in fact, I don`t even like the tall aftermarket cowl hoods on GM cars, although I think the factory 69 Camaro & 70 Chevelle  cowl hoods look nice, even if they don`t work very well. I guess I`m a bit of a purist too, I think the stock Eliminator scoop or a Boss 429 Scoop would suit that Cougar much better, but thats just my opinion. Not really a big fan of the plastic late model door handles, or the rear opening hood, but overall the car appears to have been very nicely built and detailed.
However, to ensure that such a car is more than a fairground cruising trailer queen, a little more driving time and some dragstrip run history would be a plus. I have seen more than a few Pro Street type cars that looked killer, but were overheating, poorly performing turds that wandered all over the road and track. Not saying this car is like that, but I bet that there are plenty of cars of that ilk that never leave their garage, because of such issues.
Overall, I think that 69 Cougars is one of the nicest cars of that style that I have seen,even the vinyl roof looks "right" on it. Like the color, the stripes, the stance, great looking car. As mentioned, I am sure the owner has spent at least what he claims, for a car of that caliber, but in the text, it says $75,000 is the asking price, but the price in the headline is 39 grand.  The problem of trying to sell such radical vehicles, is finding somebody who shares the builders exact taste, and is willing to pay for it. Wild multi color paint jobs and extreme body changes, and un-orthodox  powertrain swaps, like say a turbo Nissan 6 cylinder in a Mustang, attracts a very narrow audience.By sticking to a mostly stock body, a nice color and a Ford engine, this seller should avoid those issues.
1978 Fairmont,FE 427 with 428 crank, 4 speed Jerico best of 9.972@132.54MPH 1.29 60 foot
1985 Mustang HB 331 SB Ford, 4 speed Jerico, best of 10.29@128 MPH 1.40 60 foot.
1974 F350 race car hauler 390 NP435 4 speed
1959 Ford Meteor 2 dr sedan. 428 Cobra Jet, 4 speed Toploader. 12.54@ 108 MPH

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Re: Love this car
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2016, 10:20:19 PM »
Rory is right  very narrow audience.. And those who are enthusiastic about Cougars will be turned off by some of the whiz bang stuff and straying from the original trim and such.. Sadly even at 40K there may not be a buyer.. It would be a humiliating experience to run it through an auction and see how much it was actually worth..

I am sure it has never seen a drag strip or maybe even 20 mile cruise, but the bones are there for a guy who could tune it up and make some modest changes..And of course install an FE. Or a Boss 9.    Maybe offer 25K he keeps the engine and trans..   Easy Royce , step away from the keyboard. LOL

1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7