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Toppa

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Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« on: November 01, 2016, 01:42:38 AM »
hey folks,

I was one step away from buying an old header of a mustang 67' for my 390. fortunately I a look under my hood yesterday and recognized theres a beam freakin tight to my stock headers :(

So my question is:

anybody knows which headers will fit into my car?

wanna improve my flow because I read about worse powerloss cause of my mean stock headers...
second question is how much HP improvement I could expect from the swap?

lateron i could post a picture...

heres the part i wanna install : https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/ford-mustang-1967-auspuffkruemmer-fuer-390-bigblock/532334745-223-17192

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2016, 02:29:47 AM »
www.ebay.com/itm/191720346264

Go to this website and read the individual sections about this product to see what is involved.

http://www.sandersonheaders.com/sanderson-ff391-header-set-for-ford-fe-engines.html?category_id=1087

Watch this video and listen to the discussion after the last test to figure if this is worth the effort for your particular engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7_lSU3D0jw

The price for the manifolds in your Deutschland auction is a pretty good deal, but they are not going to work in your car. Maybe.

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2016, 06:55:22 AM »
oha. Nice... I will check later, cause Im in the bureau now

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2016, 07:55:00 AM »
Those are 390 GT exhaust manifolds.  I don't know if they will fit, but they will not make any significant difference in power on your engine.  I tested a bunch of exhaust manifolds for my book, and the 390 GT manifolds were not much better than the stock log-type manifolds.

If you can find a set of 428 Cobra Jet exhaust manifolds, those would be a good step up in performance (assuming that they would fit).
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2016, 08:07:37 AM »
for your book??

what will increase power in a header?

-diameter
-less turbolences

what else?

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2016, 09:47:06 AM »
Yes Jay have Wrote a book where he compares different intakes and
headers
On the headers..... you got a 69 right? trye to find 65 factory shorty
castiron headers think they will fit your 69. Leakfree and dont rust out
like steeltube headers



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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2016, 09:48:20 AM »
Individual tubes like steel tube headers will help the most.  Here is a link to my book:

http://www.fepower.net/GFEIC.html
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2016, 09:57:34 AM »
I'm talking about the ford castiron Hiperf Headers
not the log type manifolds just to clarify  Not that
big difference in power compared to steeltube
headers in a mild street engine

And i can recommend Jays Book interesting reading
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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2016, 01:22:45 PM »
uhhh im really interested in the book, but honestly, over 30 bucks for shipping  :o
but you really got my respect for the book. seems to be really professional!

so maybe some steeltube headers are available at the german aftermarket.... dont believe that hi perf. headers are available...

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2016, 01:45:51 PM »
FElony-
feeling like a noob cause ive recognized these long tube headers but never knew what theyre for....  ;D :D  but good to know that headers swap wont change that much. gonna watch more of these engine masters videos know. great link, thanks

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2016, 02:32:05 PM »
uhhh im really interested in the book, but honestly, over 30 bucks for shipping  :o

Yes, unfortunately shipping overseas from the US is very expensive.  It is even quite expensive going to Canada; why, I don't know...
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2016, 03:55:53 PM »
Because they can. :(

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2016, 03:35:19 AM »
my father in law is in california until the 17th. will it arive there till then?

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2016, 08:57:54 AM »
Sure, shipping to California is usually 3 days - Jay
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: Change headers on my 69' Country Squire
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2016, 05:21:02 AM »
so really nobody could tell me which headers will defenetly fit to my country squire?  :(