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Re: Head choices
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2015, 12:34:53 PM »
I will bring this to your attention now.
The late model heads ie: C7, C8 and D2 have a lower exhaust port than
the earlier heads. It can be an issue with some header fits so that is something to keep in mined.
C7 heads suck so I don't really consider them good for anything really.

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« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2015, 03:20:11 PM »
That's going to be the thing with older iron units.  If you can find a decent pair ready to use or in need of little work, then you can save some money.  If you are starting from scratch and have some good level of performance in mind, modern aluminum head assemblies are going to be way more cost effective.  I was going to spend close to $1200 on basic performance prep to run a set of 351C-4V iron heads.  That wasn't counting the other mods in the plan - just some basic machine work, decking, etc.  I already have valves.  For $1600 I bought a set of aluminum heads that do every thing the iron heads could do and more, without all the extra work.   For engines like the SBF, it pretty much makes no sense to use any old iron head unless it's a total resto project. 

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Re: Head choices
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2015, 03:26:18 PM »
I will bring this to your attention now.
The late model heads ie: C7, C8 and D2 have a lower exhaust port than
the earlier heads. It can be an issue with some header fits so that is something to keep in mined.
C7 heads suck so I don't really consider them good for anything really.

This is a serious point.  I built my D2s because I already owned ceramic coated truck headers with the low port.  If I hadn't had them, I would have likely gone Edelbrock

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Re: Head choices
« Reply #18 on: November 24, 2015, 12:14:10 PM »
No headers yet. It's so tight on the passenger sides shock tower I am worried about finding a set that will fit in there.

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Re: Head choices
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2015, 03:54:09 PM »
Use s set of factory castiron shorty
Headers they fit last a lifetime dont
Leak and are reprodused IF you dont
Find a used set



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Re: Head choices
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2015, 04:38:50 AM »
Who reproduces the shorty cast iron headers? I've talked to this guy and he says his shorty header will fit.

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Re: Head choices
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2015, 04:55:30 AM »
I dont remember but i have seen
Them on eBay
I think there was a pair in the
Classified on this forum a while ago



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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2015, 05:05:22 AM »
Doing some searching shows no one is reproducing cast iron ones anymore. Someplace called Pops was but is out of business.
Original cast iron headers are going to have to match to early heads aren't they?

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Re: Head choices
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2015, 09:25:49 AM »
Yes they are for the early style
Exhaust ports.
I dont know how much lower
the new port is but in My 64
Galaxie there seems to be
Plenty of space down from
The headers
The problem i can think of
Is maby the pitman arm



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Re: Head choices
« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2015, 03:42:41 PM »
Port Locations.
The exhaust port on a later head is about 1/4" lower than the early head exhaust port.
Some pics to give you an idea of what it looks like.












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Re: Head choices
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2015, 04:03:21 PM »
Here's what it looks like overlapped.
With gaskets from the right company ;) SCE.  ;)

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Re: Head choices
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2015, 04:10:21 PM »
I prefer the flat coppers to the embossed ones.
Do they make flat ones?

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Re: Head choices
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2015, 04:47:10 PM »
Heh heh
I was just pokin' fun atchya.
My brother and Hussey are/were direct competitors in the copper arena.
I'll text him about flats.
All that's in the catalog that I see are the embossed.
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Re: Head choices
« Reply #28 on: November 25, 2015, 05:16:39 PM »
Hussey is not in the gasket business anymore.

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Re: Head choices
« Reply #29 on: November 25, 2015, 05:33:40 PM »
Thought I remembered something about that, thus the "are/were".
Anyway I'll ask Ryan if there's a pn for flats that's not readily findable in the FE section and pm you Howie.
Hope all is well with you and yours.
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