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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2015, 07:45:33 AM »

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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2015, 04:58:26 PM »
if your going with the stroker kit, id if at all possible take the extra time needed to get the funds and have barry set you up with a basic set of edlebrok heads to go along with it, ..
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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2015, 05:52:27 AM »
Yet another build for reference: http://fefordtech.com/index.php?topic=29.0

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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2016, 10:42:34 AM »
Hi,
   You mentioned you are swapping a 68 block into a 63. The bolt pattern on the block for the mounts are different. I took a  look at my 68 Monterey 390 and 64 Marauder 390. It wasn't the easiest thing to see looking in a mirror, but they look different.  It looks like the mount stud to the frame stand ends up in a different spot even if you use the 68 mounts. Is there a swap mount for this?
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68 Monterey 390 C-6
68 Monterey conv 390 C-6
64 Montclair Marauder 390 Merc-O
58 Monterey 383 Merc-O
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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2016, 11:57:53 AM »
Its just 2extra holes for the
Newer mount 2holes is on
The same place as on the
Old block



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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2016, 12:15:32 PM »

    It sounds like you can move a later block back, but not an early block forward.   



Its just 2extra holes for the
Newer mount 2holes is on
The same place as on the
Old block
Mark
Berkshire Transmissions
North Adams, Massachusetts

70 Cougar XR-7 460 C-6
70 Cougar XR-7 conv 351c 4v FMX
69 Cougar SS 351w AOD
69 Cougar Sunroof Eliminator 351w FMX
69 Cougar XR-7 390 C-6
68 Monterey 390 C-6
68 Monterey conv 390 C-6
64 Montclair Marauder 390 Merc-O
58 Monterey 383 Merc-O
58 Parklane 430 MultiDrive
68 Colony Park 428 C-6
68 Colony Park 390 C-6
58 Parklane 430 MultiDrive
70 Cougar Eliminator 351c 4 speed
I don't feel like a hoarder.

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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2016, 02:03:51 PM »
The early block have two mounting
Points for the Rubber mount
The new block have the two same
Mounting points.Butt there is two
Extra mounting points added behind
them spaced closer together
Just use the Rubber mount for your
Car

An FE fits in a Y-block car IF you
Swap sides of the rubbermounts
Or turn them around i dont remember
exactly



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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2016, 12:07:45 PM »
This is my understanding that the post 63/64 blocks had a couple new mounts, but were backwards compatible.

The early block have two mounting
Points for the Rubber mount
The new block have the two same
Mounting points.Butt there is two
Extra mounting points added behind
them spaced closer together
Just use the Rubber mount for your
Car

An FE fits in a Y-block car IF you
Swap sides of the rubbermounts
Or turn them around i dont remember
exactly

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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2016, 05:40:02 PM »
One issue that has crept into, well basically all vintage car stuff, is generic parts.
The engine mounts that are coming from India"?" now is basically one size fits all.
And the parts stores, online and brick and mortar are selling them as correct
for "your" car.
But the stud that mounts on the frame mount can be as much as 1" in the wrong spot.
It don't seem like much, but try and get that 1" to move and it's not going to happen. :P
Just something to keep in mined.

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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2016, 05:56:35 AM »
I might be pie in the skying, but Mac's Auto seems to have them.
One issue that has crept into, well basically all vintage car stuff, is generic parts.
The engine mounts that are coming from India"?" now is basically one size fits all.
And the parts stores, online and brick and mortar are selling them as correct
for "your" car.
But the stud that mounts on the frame mount can be as much as 1" in the wrong spot.
It don't seem like much, but try and get that 1" to move and it's not going to happen. :P
Just something to keep in mined.

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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2016, 10:31:15 AM »
I might be pie in the skying, but Mac's Auto seems to have them.
One issue that has crept into, well basically all vintage car stuff, is generic parts.
The engine mounts that are coming from India"?" now is basically one size fits all.
And the parts stores, online and brick and mortar are selling them as correct
for "your" car.
But the stud that mounts on the frame mount can be as much as 1" in the wrong spot.
It don't seem like much, but try and get that 1" to move and it's not going to happen. :P
Just something to keep in mined.
I'm pretty sure all of those mounts are made by the same company.
It took me a couple of tries to get the right mounts.
I went through a local purchase though.
It could be that I was just seeing the crappy end of the bell curve.  ::)
Guaranteed they are not as well made as the old stuff though.
They just don't have the finished look.

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Re: My '63 Mercury Wagon 390 build
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2016, 01:36:09 PM »
Deck Height: 10.154 after squaring.
Stroke: 4.125
Rod Length: 6.7
Piston compression dist: 1.39
Piston volume: 17cc

Assembly: 4.125 / 2 + 6.7 + 1.39 = 10.1525
Piston in the hole: 10.154 - 10.1525 = 0.0015