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Royce

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EMC progress
« on: August 13, 2015, 09:36:14 PM »
I have been chugging along preparing and testing my Lincoln for the competition in Oct..  A lot of home made parts have been tried.

Here is my latest manifold





1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2015, 09:51:51 PM »
Nice port plates, Royce.  What engine was the manifold originally designed for?
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- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2015, 09:56:17 PM »
That's an interesting setup. I love the repurposed throttle bodies. :) One thing I'm a little confused on is the intake/head setup. Are the heads traditional stacked runners like stock or are the ports vertical and spaced front to back? If the ports are stacked it looks like both injectors would be going into just the top runner, unless the head spacer is open and the fuel gets dumped into both runners at the same time. Just curious how it is set up.
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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2015, 10:29:02 PM »
Now don't ya'll rib him about that intake brand.  It came off a marine engine.  The ports are very similar to a (cough, cough) sbc. ;D  Joe-JDC
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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2015, 10:45:05 PM »
Jay  I wanted to make sure those port plates did not bend when i tightened them down  lol

The Lincoln Y Block does not have stacked ports.  They are paired side by each. like brand X.   I re-purposed a scrub intake for this job.  I experienced no pain cutting it up to fit. 
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2015, 10:53:28 PM »
The Lincoln Y Block does not have stacked ports.  They are paired side by each. like brand X.   I re-purposed a scrub intake for this job.  I experienced no pain cutting it up to fit.

Ok, I just needed a little educating on the y block. I bet you didn't experience any pain at all, lol.
Jared



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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2015, 08:50:36 AM »
Royce that intake gives me an indication your Y-block seriously commited to high RPM hook, line and sinker............... I presume you have plans for equally bad-ass valvetrain and headers?..... 
Can you share what kind of rev's you're thinking it will be doing?

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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2015, 11:01:31 AM »
The contest rpm range is 3-6000 rpm, pretty modest...
 Although that looks like a high rpm setup, my objective is to use long runners with high velocity to pump up midrange torque. By using port fuel injection all the fuel separation and distribution issues of a big Plenum manifold should be eliminated.. We will see.

 If I had to guess I would say i will probably end up using a ported Holley Strip Dominator single plane manifold  a Holley HP 750 carb. 1.75 primary tube headers 32 inches long into a 3 inch collector

My valve train consists of a solid roller cam, PAC beehive valve springs, and Harlan Sharp 1.6 rocker on stock shafts and stands. it has proven very reliable at 7000 plus rpm
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2015, 11:01:43 AM »
BB, this is the EMC entry engine in Vintage Class.  The dyno pulls are from 3000-6000 rpm.  Nothing will be shared until after the competition to keep the competition from knowing how things are progressing.    Joe-JDC
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Re: EMC progress... Dressed for the party
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2015, 09:15:41 PM »
A week from Thurs I will be in Lima Oh running my Lincoln Y Block in the Vintage class at Engine Masters.  My chances of finishing in the money are not good but I was hoping for a few votes for best dressed..  I decided to go with the 1957 Mercury Turnpike Cruiser version..


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1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7

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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2015, 10:05:54 PM »
Royce, those are awesome, AWESOME valve covers!!  I've never seen them before; are they stock?  My Dad bought a 57(?) Mercury convertible brand new with the turnpike cruiser engine; my earliest car memory is running my hand along the concave section of the rear quarter panel, probably about 1963.  I wish I'd have known back then to look under the hood!
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2015, 10:43:35 PM »
Jay - I believe those are indeed stock rocker covers.  That is a BITCHIN' engine!

There was a great picture of a '57 Turnpike Cruiser in the Dyno building at Ford.  I always liked those...  The chrome air inlets along the top of the hardtop windshield are so unique and so fifties!
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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2015, 10:56:09 PM »
I really love the way that deal looks.  Best of luck down there - I look forward to seeing you guys on Thursday.
I run on Friday and it looks like it'll be a classic "last minute" deal getting it done...

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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2015, 07:23:06 AM »
Back when even the engines were dressed to the hilt! The Turnpike Cruiser was the epitome of '50s excess in car design. Beautiful cars, and about $50k worth of chrome in today's world!

Maybe they'll let me stand outside of the UNOH building and smell the exhaust. Or I'll dig out my 1920's collapsible camera and tell them I'm with the Lima News, doing a photo shoot. ;D
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Re: EMC progress
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2015, 08:06:44 AM »
Jay those indeed are stock valve covers  .All 57 Mercurys with 368s had these covers. The factory only put one Turnpike Cruiser emblem on the engine, on the passenger side valve cover. This is because the air cleaner intake obscured the driver side valve cover. To avoid an asymmetrical look I put a pair of them on my motor..

Too bad that early exposure to 57 Mercs did not stick Jay.  You could have been part of the wonderful world of Y blocks..(every one is a side oiler)
1955 Thunderbird Competition Coupe Altered Chassis "War Bird" 383 Lincoln Y block 520 hp
1955 Thunderbird 292 275 hp Y Block
1956 Ford Victoria 292 Y block

1957 Mercury 2dr Wagon "Battle Wagon" drag car 
1957 Thunderbird Glass body Tube Chassis drag car 333 cu in 500 hp Ford Y block
1961 Starliner 390/375 clone
1965 GT40 tribute w/FE
1966 Falcon Pro Touring project
Kaase Boss 547. 840 HP 698 Torque  pump gas
1992 BMW V-12 5.0
2001 Lincoln 5.4 4 cam.
1968 Cougar XR7