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TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« on: April 13, 2015, 07:51:34 PM »
Joe Craine got me all excited today when he sent me a bunch of pictures of a couple of Trick Flow Specialties EFI manifolds sitting on top of his intake adapter.  I think this would be an awesome setup, both from an appearance and performance standpoint, and would give anybody an easy entry into an EFI system.  I've posted some of the pictures that Joe sent below, with some explanatory notes. 

The photos below shows the front of the TFS intake marked for cutting, to fit the intake adapter, and then the cut version sitting in place. 







Here's the back of the intake, which doesn't appear to need any trimming at all:





Here's a picture of the runners, with the top of the intake removed; pretty nice shot to the ports:




Here's a picture of the manifold with one of the tops in place; this is the normal street top, with some additional runner length built in:





Here's the bottom half of the race style top in the next picture, which gives shorter runners and a straighter shot to lower manifold, and then both halves installed in the following picture, with the other top sitting off to the side:







The remaining pictures show the manifold options mounted on an engine, along with some measurements from the top rail of the block. 













Joe tells me that you can buy ready made fuel rails for these manifolds, and of course you can bolt on the correct size throttle body.  Add injectors and an EFI box, and you have a nearly complete EFI system.  I'm impressed...
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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2015, 08:31:52 PM »
Dang, that is REALLY sweet! It would be a bit tall for a lot of folks who want to keep stuff under the hood....so get a taller hood ;D

Seems like that would be a really nice combo for an easy FI setup with all the components readily available, and from somebody who has a proven reputation for quality performance Ford stuff. Nice!
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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2015, 09:25:39 PM »
A really neat feature of these intakes is that the upper plenum can be turned around 180*, making it easy to plumb for blower tubes and intercoolers.  I think it would be super cool to retrofit a FE into a newer mustang body with EFI, and pass emissions, have all the modern suspension, and brakes, and a more aerodynamic body.  I have been looking for another '69Mach I, or Fairlane for several years now, and there just don't seem to be any for sale that are not junk, or restored out of my price range.  The '05 up mustangs are getting fairly cheap, and there are some bargains to be had.  Joe-JDC
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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2015, 05:07:38 AM »
Jay, which adapter manifold is that, that Joes using?

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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2015, 07:31:23 AM »
13011 #006.  I asked Jay if it were possible to cut the pushrod tubes in oval .500 openings so that the adapter could be ported larger for CNC heads if I were to use KCII, or Survival that were a larger opening.  I think this intake would be perfect for a dedicated CNC adapter port opening for the EFI after porting.  I am going to flow the lower then port it and clean up the radius in the box plenum, and re-flow.  Ultimately flow the manifold through the adapter through the head.  The Survival heads flow just over 350cfm, and with a small port cross section, so I am excited about how this will work.  I have a Pro Charger, intercooler, 320lph fuel pump, 42# injectors, etc., just need time and energy.  This intake opens up a whole new option for EFI possibilities without the problems with fuel and carburetors.  Joe-JDC
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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2015, 08:06:58 AM »
Jay, which adapter manifold is that, that Joes using?

Just to amplify what Joe said, it is identical to the standard 13001 intake adapter, but the pushrod holes are only 1/2" wide, not 5/8" wide.
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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2015, 03:49:15 AM »
Joe Craine got me all excited today when he sent me a bunch of pictures of a couple of Trick Flow Specialties EFI manifolds sitting on top of his intake adapter.  I think this would be an awesome setup, both from an appearance and performance standpoint, and would give anybody an easy entry into an EFI system.  I've posted some of the pictures that Joe sent below, with some explanatory notes. 




Here's a picture of the manifold with one of the tops in place; this is the normal street top, with some additional runner length built in:





Joe tells me that you can buy ready made fuel rails for these manifolds, and of course you can bolt on the correct size throttle body.  Add injectors and an EFI box, and you have a nearly complete EFI system.  I'm impressed...
A few months back, I had a few comments on a thread here about a thread for an FE build at Hot Rod Engine Tech that included this manifold for a turboed and fuel injected truck engine.


WOW, actually a YEAR and a few months!!  :o

http://fepower.net/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=1559.msg14056#msg14056

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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2015, 07:00:44 PM »
Was able to spend a few minutes on the TFS lower today, and did a flow test of the runners as cast--not modified in any way, yet.  420 cfm.  I am going to scribe the ports on the uncut adapter I bought from Jay, and then port it to my Survival heads.  Should be like a tunnel ram EFI.  Joe-JDC
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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2015, 10:14:11 AM »
Yup that's the one I am doing, I am going with the Box R. It is going to need some work port wise though. I already got a 90 mm throttle body and custom spacer to mount up, I am going 5.0 ignition with a quarter horse and distributor less.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2015, 01:50:14 PM »
That looks like a great setup. That was what i'd planned for my ramptruck before giving up on it. I was going to make the runners off a Streetmaster base but this looks clean and simple. Lots of available "5.0L" stuff to make it work.

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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2015, 05:22:07 PM »
Isn't that an $800 intake getting cut up?  Does it come standard with two tops, or how much for an extra top?

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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2015, 07:05:18 PM »
The upper plenums I already had for my 427W stroker as well as the 9.5" lower.  When Jay cast these adapters for a cleveland intake, I ordered the TFS lower only for $399.99.  I don't have anything right now that uses a cleveland engine, so it is not important to me to keep it for use on a 9.2" build.  You can buy these parts separate from Summit.  Just type in TFS box plenum, or TFS cleveland lower.  Joe-JDC
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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2015, 09:04:30 PM »
I think it's awesome and in the right application would be jaw dropping cool, but what application would want so long of a runner and so much volume?
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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2015, 09:30:27 PM »
My old Crower 8H 8-port fueler injector would look good on that...

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Re: TFS EFI Manifolds for the intake adapter
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2015, 09:33:53 PM »
I have purchased a BBM iron block that I plan on boring to 4.390" and use either a 4.250" or 4.375" stroker crankshaft.  I also plan on test several intakes with this combination,  and at least four different brands of aluminum heads, and the EFI will just be "icing on the cake" so to speak.  Joe-JDC
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