O/T: Ford's latest naturally aspirated NHRA entry, C based

[machoneman]

http://www.stangtv.com/news/ford-racings-429-ninja-power-nhra-factory-stock-showdown/

[turbohunter]

I guess this is the first shot of "we're getting out of pro racing and concentrating on sportsman classes".
Gee do you think that NHRA would get the hint that people AND car companies (at least the best one) want to see THEIR car racing instead of a teardrop with stickers.

[babybolt]

Actually it looks like the engine is based on a Windsor block (Cleveland crank) and modified Nascar heads.

[Barry_R]

Very cool package.
More the way things shoulda been....

Just kinda leaves me wondering where the terms factory and stock enter into the equation?
ford has not had a "factory" pushrod engine in over a decade.
I guess "stock" refers to the idea that Ford put a part number on it...

[Joe-JDC]

I had a set of those D3 heads on my flow bench recently with a 2.135"intake valve and 1.560" exhaust valve.  410/300cfm @.800" no exhaust pipe extension.  Best set of SBF heads I have ever flowed on my bench in over 20 years.  I have had several in the 380-390cfm range, but these shined with a smaller valve. I have been told by many that my bench is consertative, and these heads just flat flowed.   I am very impressed with what I see in those heads.  Now if they would just make an intake manifold with thermostat housing for a street engine.  Joe-JDC

[Qikbbstang]

I'm sorry but Ford's "whoring to play this game in someone else's ball-park"... A pushrod motor as mentioned has not been in the Ford lineup for decades. Using the 429 "race engine" displacement which helps ticks me off - right in there with their selling 427 Windsor's.  To me it looks like NHRA "cooked the books" with the under 400 Cu In motors only deducting off 100lbs from the 3350 min weight of 430 Cu In Motors. Remember those writing the 2013 EMC Rules didn't believe Fords Modular Motors could get to 400 Cu In.  Kaase and three other EMC competitors already proved a 400 inch modular is venomous to brand-x's. Imagine how a modular Ford naturally aspirated  modular Ford engine could kick asses on the Brand-x's if 2013 EMC Challenge proved anything. Just a shame that FoMoCo plays their game at NHRA.

[TomP]

Ford does offer the regular 5.0 in the CobraJets and it runs well.
 The 429 is bogus as all hell for Stock but so are the Chevy and Mopar engines so fair enough.
 I think it's brilliant on the bore and stroke. You are allowed .070" overbore but only .015" tolerance on the stroke. Previous engines like the 352 and 428 (both Windsor type smallblocks) had a bore big enough that there wasn't room for .070" over.

[RJP]

I'm sorry but Ford's "whoring to play this game in someone else's ball-park"... A pushrod motor as mentioned has not been in the Ford lineup for decades. Using the 429 "race engine" displacement which helps ticks me off - right in there with their selling 427 Windsor's.  To me it looks like NHRA "cooked the books" with the under 400 Cu In motors only deducting off 100lbs from the 3350 min weight of 430 Cu In Motors. Remember those writing the 2013 EMC Rules didn't believe Fords Modular Motors could get to 400 Cu In.  Kaase and three other EMC competitors already proved a 400 inch modular is venomous to brand-x's. Imagine how a modular Ford naturally aspirated  modular Ford engine could kick asses on the Brand-x's if 2013 EMC Challenge proved anything. Just a shame that FoMoCo plays their game at NHRA.

Jeeezzzus, BB is there anything you won't bitch about? This is something Ford should have done decades ago...like in the mid 50s. If Ford had been more concerned about the "youth market" as did Duntov in his memo maybe Chevrolet would not be the go-to company for hotrodding. Ford had that market locked up in the 30s thru the early 50s with the 4 banger, flathead and could have with the Y-block [with more than just a token and very limited supercharged 312]  then on to the FE. Ford dropped the ball on that big time. I guess it's better late than never and if Ford wants to play in the NHRA sandbox then I suppose Ford has to play by NHRA's rules. IMO the NHRA rules are and have been stacked against Ford for years. The casual observer, and even the most jaded ones would think NHRA does not want Ford competing against the almighty Chevrolet and Mopar. Afterall who would ban all engines with a bore center more than 4.84" ? And what engine has a maximum bore center of 4.84"?....3 guesses...and the 1st two don't count.

[Kirk Morgan]

RJ and i looked at building a 429 and updating our Mustang to a 2014. The cost of the cyclinder heads make it to costly to do. Oh by the way they increased the max over bore to .080 now.

Kirk