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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2014, 05:19:00 PM »
Jay do you have oil pressure behind that cap without a cam? It's all splash with the main fed from the side and no cam or lifters to oil in block is'nt it? Have you had that cap pop out ?

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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2014, 05:44:30 PM »
I have to say I'm looking forward to the finished product, that hood looks killer!  Good on the leak too, as much work as it caused the source is superficial, way better than digging in deeper at this point.
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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2014, 06:27:00 PM »
I'm glad you found a thru hole, and not one plugged with a loctited and broken bolt. Hope the worst is over now. Later, Travis

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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2014, 06:32:58 PM »
Jay do you have oil pressure behind that cap without a cam? It's all splash with the main fed from the side and no cam or lifters to oil in block is'nt it? Have you had that cap pop out ?

Lance

No oil pressure there, just splash.  I have had that cam plug pop out, twice before, on aluminum block engines.  That's why I like to secure it mechanically.
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2014, 07:49:53 PM »
Lose bolt, eh? Did the auto flex plate hit it and make it come loose? some convertor bloom maybe while running in-car? Perhaps the normal fore-back play of the crank's thrust freeplay+convertor? That bolt head looks to be in the path of the outer portion of the flexplate.

Hmmm, I will check that, but I don't think those bolt heads are close to the flexplate.  I'm using an ATI flexplate that works with the sleeve that they use; the sleeve bolts onto the crank, and the flexplate bolts to the sleeve.  This way the flexplate is straight, not dished like a normal factory flexplate.  Seems to me it would have to move 1/4" or more to hit those bolt heads.  But I will check...

Just checked, and the top of the allen head capscrew is 11/16" away from the flexplate.  Not gonna be a problem...
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2014, 08:52:05 PM »
Good to know!
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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2014, 09:17:11 PM »
Jay do you have oil pressure behind that cap without a cam? It's all splash with the main fed from the side and no cam or lifters to oil in block is'nt it? Have you had that cap pop out ?

Lance

No oil pressure there, just splash.  I have had that cam plug pop out, twice before, on aluminum block engines.  That's why I like to secure it mechanically.

ahh, ok got it. thanks
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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2014, 01:13:18 PM »
How many of these cars do you still own?

Is this going to be your third sub 10 second car you own?

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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2014, 02:31:59 PM »
I have a really hard time selling cars.  Still have the Mach 1, the 64 Galaxie, the 68 Shelby, the 69 Galaxie, the 60 Thunderbird, the 68 Mustang fastback... 
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2014, 02:37:06 PM »
yeah... i have the same problem i just wish my cars were as epic as yours

I have a  jeep
a 57 thunderbird
a 61 galaxie
a 99 f150 and...
a kia (insert sad noise here)

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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2014, 08:23:25 PM »
I have a really hard time selling cars.  Still have the Mach 1, the 64 Galaxie, the 68 Shelby, the 69 Galaxie, the 60 Thunderbird, the 68 Mustang fastback...
I still see the nose of the GT.
Which was a drag week winner also?

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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2014, 09:28:44 PM »
That's right, Howie, I won in 2006 in the Daily Driver class with the GT.  After that they changed to rules to add a bracket race for the top 32 cars at the end of the week.  Back when I won you had to try to average 12.000, without going less than that.  On my 15th pass on the last day I ran an 11.939, which gave me a perfect 12.000 for the week.  I think they didn't like it that I spent the last day doing laps, trying for that perfect time, so now they have the bracket race LOL!
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- 1969 Mach 1, Drag Week 2005 Winner NA/BB, 511" FE (10.60s @ 129); Drag Week 2007 Runner-Up PA/BB, 490" Supercharged FE (9.35 @ 151)
- 1964 Ford Galaxie, Drag Week 2009 Winner Modified NA (9.50s @ 143), 585" SOHC
- 1969 Shelby Clone, Drag Week 2015 Winner Modified NA (Average 8.98 @ 149), 585" SOHC

   

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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2014, 06:35:05 AM »
Worse Jay than the laps for consistency....it was a FORD! LOL!

Only BBC and LS-7's are allowed to win on a regular basis.....you should know that!
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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #28 on: August 14, 2014, 06:46:41 AM »
we get all excited if a head flows much over 300 cfm...

LS motors...
http://www.mastmotorsports.com/view.php?id=518&c=20&s=4

Flow Data w/4.125" Bore Plate
Lift   Intake   Exhaust
0.100   76   65
0.200   163   118
0.300   245   171
0.400   307   212
0.500   350   229
0.600   379   245
0.650   388   247
0.700   395   249
0.800   401.5   258
0.900   406   260
1.000   410   263

MAST ls3 heads
Flow Data w/4.125" Bore Plate
Lift   Intake   Exhaust
0.100   78   65
0.200   162   118
0.300   243   171
0.400   304   212
0.500   347   229
0.550   362   
0.600   376   245
0.650   384   247
0.700   390   249

I really wish someone would do this for fords....

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Re: The Road to Drag Week 2014 - August 10
« Reply #29 on: August 14, 2014, 07:20:15 AM »
CFE already has. Their billet Yates head outflows any LS head by a wide margin.  Note too they have other makes of outlaw racing heads and blocks and billet blocks too. The Storm King head can do over 430 CFM on a 4.120 bore SBF. No FE heads of course but...... 

Hang around the Pro Sportsman's ranks and high-end Sprint car crowd and you'll find lots SBF's running CFE's heads and (drag racing) sheet metal intakes. The heads cast or billet accept mechanical F.I. down nozzles well, a must for Spring Car racing. Btw, a really good all-aluminum 410 CID SBF with mechanical F.I., ready-to-run will set you back $35,000 these days. 

http://www.cferacing.com/?pid=67

Btw, if you really want a kick in the pants, check this 600 CID SBC article. As you read it, take a close look at the intake and exhaust port size, shape and spacing. As time has gone on, the Chevy crowd has slowly moved into the Ford Cleveland camp (an over 45 year old design!) as today's hottest non-LS engines sport identical heads and chambers to modern design Yates/Cleveland architecture! Heck, they have even dropped the Chevy firing order and rear mounted distributor.

And while the LS series is a hot engine, the hottest SB Chevys running in Pro Sportsman's and Sprint Cars owe nothing, zero, to the LS designs. They also have CFE type heads or similar canted valve heads ala' the Yates/Cleveland designs and they too flow well over 400 cfm. 

As a Chevy guy told me LS's are for streeters and wimps, pro & real racers run CFE! LOL! 
 
http://www.enginelabs.com/news/cfe-develops-600-cubic-inch-small-block-engine/



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