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chilly460

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Surging at light cruise
« on: August 29, 2026, 11:04:05 PM »
Ran the Merc up to a car show in PA on Friday, 210mi run.  As I was driving, noticed it started surging at light cruise, such as following someone and just maintaining 45mph on secondary roads, anywhere from 1500-2500rpm.  Any bit of throttle and it would clean up.  Idles perfectly. 

I’m guessing carb is dirty and I’ll pull it apart and clean it, but just thinking through it.  Wouldn’t think it’s the idle feed as it idles fine. I’m thinking it’s something with the power valve as it happens at transition and cleans up with any drop of vacuum.  Main jet, I don’t think so as it was perfectly clean any time I was at light throttle like running 60mph and up.  I’ll also check for a vacuum leak.  Any other ideas?

Thought about timing as well but the on/off of the surge was immediate, no change in rpm at all was needed, just squeezing the throttle, so doesn’t seem like spark scatter

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Re: Surging at light cruise
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2026, 07:38:50 AM »
     Surging at low power demand followed by a cleanup with a bit more throttle opening usually indicates a lean condition for whatever reason. My guesses are either a fuel restriction in the transition circuit or possibly the rear barrels not closing completely. I can tell from your post that you know carburetors and will figure it out.
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Re: Surging at light cruise
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2026, 09:29:38 AM »
Small vac leak?
Timing dropping out at that rpm?
At that rpm you probably aren’t fully on the mains so some idle fuel is in play.

Rule out stuff and narrow it down

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Re: Surging at light cruise
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2026, 09:48:58 AM »
Drew, it did it anywhere from 1500-2500 so don’t think it’s timing related. 

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Re: Surging at light cruise
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2026, 11:31:27 AM »
Probably not your issue... but...

My 68 Mustang 390 with a CJ 735 cfm carb would surge at 60-70 mph light throttle cruise.
Tip in throttle and surge was gone.
Ran perfectly in all other aspects.

Had the oval open element air cleaner and a 68 Shelby hood with open scoops.

If I pulled the (converted to) manual choke out "ever so slightly" the surge would clear up.
Choke NOT pulled enough to make it richer. "Just barely" moved the choke blade less than 1/16".

My theory...

The open air cleaner and hood scoop disturbed the air flow into the carb.
Pulling the choke such a tiny amount changed the airflow thru the boosters such that the surge went away.

I meant to fashion a shield in front of the air cleaner to block air from the scoops to see if that helped.
Sadly I sold the car before ever trying this...
« Last Edit: August 30, 2026, 03:02:44 PM by galaxiex »
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Re: Surging at light cruise
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2026, 12:03:25 PM »
check your intake manifold bolts to make sure they are tight,i had 2 engines that were built 10 or more years ago and one with alum heads and one with iron heads,were loose and most were finger tight.replace intake gaskets on both and they were perfect,vacuum back to normal.both were aluminum intakes as well.also check for bad vacuum hoses as well.and if a vacuum advance distributor, make sure plate moves freely.

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Re: Surging at light cruise
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2026, 02:34:07 PM »
I'd clean the high speed air bleeds, if one is blocked it could pull over early, although seems unlikely that significant and repeatable

I'd unhook the vacuum advance and try it

I'd block the PCV and try it. 

I'd probably even look real close at all the wires, maybe one starting to fail.

Look to see if a spring broke in the mechanical advance

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Re: Surging at light cruise
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2026, 06:08:19 PM »
I have the same thing I’ve been slacking but I’m gonna richen up to idle bleed by making them smaller. I recently went down on jets and now have this problem. When it was jetted higher it was fine. No hesitations on tip in but at steady 22-2500 like little surges.

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Re: Surging at light cruise
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2026, 07:32:22 AM »
This is a situation where it was fine and has popped up in a long drive, so I'm guessing it's a blocked feed.  Was messing around setting up garage equipment this weekend so I didn't mess with it, will dig in this week.