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AlanCasida

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Cold repairing cracked block
« on: October 08, 2025, 06:47:47 PM »
I have a 427 s/o block that has a crack in the deck and am considering doing a cold repair using the tapered plug method and I was wondering if anyone on here has had any experience with them.  I was wanting to use a plug kit from the Lock-n-Stitch Co. but they have been absorbed by a multinational corp and their website no longer exists. I found a tapered plug kit on Goodson's web site.  I imagine I could get it welded but I am concerned about distorting the block and the extra machine work involved to correct it. Here are some pictures of the crack I have. Thanks!

https://goodson.com/products/crack-repair-plugs


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Re: Cold repairing cracked block
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2025, 08:55:53 PM »
Dang the price of those has gone up.  That crack goes well into the bore.  That will be a challenge to have a nice finished product. I truly hope it works out. 
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Re: Cold repairing cracked block
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2025, 09:03:03 PM »
Dang the price of those has gone up.  That crack goes well into the bore.  That will be a challenge to have a nice finished product. I truly hope it works out.
That's concern I have. That cylinder will need a sleeve anyway. I may call my machine shop and get their opinion before I spend a bunch of money.

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Re: Cold repairing cracked block
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2025, 11:11:19 AM »
      Well, that one isn't going to be so easy.    :o

      One of the greatest concerns here might be in the positioning relationship of the loading for the gasket fire-ring versus the cylinder head bolt hole with the crack separating the two.  This is a high stress area, where when assembled, the bolt hole is being pulled up with several tons of pressure, while the gasket fire-ring trapped between head and block deck is loading the top of the cylinder column effectively trying to push it down, and is probably the cause of this crack in between.   

      What this means is that the repair is going to have to result in a sum of structural soundness that surpasses what was there before; and this isn't going to be achieved with solely a "cold-repair", and although I don't see any other option beyond welding as being prudent, but it in itself comes with limitations and drawbacks, even when executed by a capable individual.   

      And yes, a sleeve (or two) will probably also be required, if the repair effort gets that far.    :)

      B.T.W.  What is the blocks' current bore size, as it probably will require to be something greater after the initial crack repair process so if it's already out near its' limit then . . . . . ?    ???

      Scott.
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Re: Cold repairing cracked block
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2025, 11:33:26 AM »
      Well, that one isn't going to be so easy.    :o

      One of the greatest concerns here might be in the positioning relationship of the loading for the gasket fire-ring versus the cylinder head bolt hole with the crack separating the two.  This is a high stress area, where when assembled, the bolt hole is being pulled up with several tons of pressure, while the gasket fire-ring trapped between head and block deck is loading the top of the cylinder column effectively trying to push it down, and is probably the cause of this crack in between.   

      What this means is that the repair is going to have to result in a sum of structural soundness that surpasses what was there before; and this isn't going to be achieved with solely a "cold-repair", and although I don't see any other option beyond welding as being prudent, but it in itself comes with limitations and drawbacks, even when executed by a capable individual.   

      And yes, a sleeve (or two) will probably also be required, if the repair effort gets that far.    :)

      B.T.W.  What is the blocks' current bore size, as it probably will require to be something greater after the initial crack repair process so if it's already out near its' limit then . . . . . ?    ???

      Scott.
Thank you for your insight. Those are some things I hadn't considered. It's a standard bore (marine) block and it's also a s/o that has been machined for hydraulic lifters. The more I look at it the more I also think the tapered plugs probably won't work. I have contacted (email) a place that specializes in welding up cracked blocks and am waiting for a response back. 

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Re: Cold repairing cracked block
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2025, 05:13:26 PM »
muggy weld rods work on cold iron blocks.have to v out the cracks and dont overheat the rods.worth a try.