Uncle Tony's Garage: Basphemy upon the FE

[cleandan]

Whenever I come across "information" on a website I ALWAYS try to keep focused on what the website operator is trying to accomplish.
In most cases they are trying to garner clicks to generate income...and the rest can be figured out later.

Never forget Uncle Tony is working to generate clicks as his first and foremost intent.
His incorrect information on the site certainly does generate clicks and participation as many will participate there to either agree or set him straight...all while Tony hears the cash bell dinging as the "debate" rages.

The other thing I do is ask myself a few questions.
1) Do I have to be right on this internet site?
2) Will my correct information remove the incorrect information, or will it simply become noise in the background of this poor site?
3) Will my efforts to correct the mistakes change any minds?
In today's mentality of believe what feels good and makes me happy I don't see any minds being changed regardless of the tangible proof and evidence.

Yup, you found Uncle Tony's Garage wrong yet again...and you sort of knew it was probably going to be suspect at best, and likely wrong already, so why bother getting involved because the past has proven to garner no change in how that site operates.

The line from the song "The Boxer", by Simon and Garfunkel, comes to mind here.
"Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

I think that sums up what is happening on that site (and all over for that matter) as the site generates clicks and income for Uncle Tony.

[410bruce]

Whenever I come across "information" on a website I ALWAYS try to keep focused on what the website operator is trying to accomplish.
In most cases they are trying to garner clicks to generate income...and the rest can be figured out later.

Never forget Uncle Tony is working to generate clicks as his first and foremost intent.
His incorrect information on the site certainly does generate clicks and participation as many will participate there to either agree or set him straight...all while Tony hears the cash bell dinging as the "debate" rages.

The other thing I do is ask myself a few questions.
1) Do I have to be right on this internet site?
2) Will my correct information remove the incorrect information, or will it simply become noise in the background of this poor site?
3) Will my efforts to correct the mistakes change any minds?
In today's mentality of believe what feels good and makes me happy I don't see any minds being changed regardless of the tangible proof and evidence.

Yup, you found Uncle Tony's Garage wrong yet again...and you sort of knew it was probably going to be suspect at best, and likely wrong already, so why bother getting involved because the past has proven to garner no change in how that site operates.

The line from the song "The Boxer", by Simon and Garfunkel, comes to mind here.
"Still a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."

I think that sums up what is happening on that site (and all over for that matter) as the site generates clicks and income for Uncle Tony.

Very well thought out response, cleandan. What I would like to see happen is, one of the knowledgeable heavy hitters in the Ford camp release a video showing UTs ignorant and sometimes outright false statements on what really transpired in Grand National and NHRA racing in the 1960s through present day. I have neither the talent nor the means to do so.
I know getting in a war of words on the internet is pretty much folly, but for whatever reason this deal just irks me.
UT is only a few years older than me so he never "lived it" , meaning was involved in the racing scene of the 1960s like some of his subscribers seem to think. He was alive then, but that's it. I don't take away his knowledge of Mopars, but it seems to me his knowledge of Ford is more what he has been told than experienced.
A parting note, he really has a lot of subs who really hate Ford and Ford guys. Many of the comments call us stupid, idiots, special etc. I really don't get the vitriol.

In the end, I just hope the truth wins out.

[cleandan]

410Bruce.
If some UT members are so set in their ways that they label Ford owners in such a derogatory manner it makes me wonder what it is they have experienced to make them think this way.
If the members at UT website are so against Ford, and Ford owners in general, it makes we wonder why I would want to attend a party where I am not welcome?

When I am confronted by these single minded, single make, hate filled types it gives me reason to reflect on all my car buddies, and their spouses, and their kids, who are NOT anything like that regardless of the make, model, or other.

There are simply too many good car people out there having too much car fun to be bothered much by the types who pet the cat backwards as their choice of action.

You don't like me because I drove up in a Ford?
You don't like me because I arrived in a Galaxie?
You think I'm stupid because I enjoy these cars?
You know what I just realized?...You are a jerk, and my legs still work.

If any GM, Mopar, or AMC zealots (fortunately there are not too many who are THAT over the top) get too pushy with their rhetoric I always seem to quiet them by asking one question.
How many LeMans races has (fill in the blank) won?

[410bruce]

410Bruce.
If some UT members are so set in their ways that they label Ford owners in such a derogatory manner it makes me wonder what it is they have experienced to make them think this way.
If the members at UT website are so against Ford, and Ford owners in general, it makes we wonder why I would want to attend a party where I am not welcome?

When I am confronted by these single minded, single make, hate filled types it gives me reason to reflect on all my car buddies, and their spouses, and their kids, who are NOT anything like that regardless of the make, model, or other.

There are simply too many good car people out there having too much car fun to be bothered much by the types who pet the cat backwards as their choice of action.

You don't like me because I drove up in a Ford?
You don't like me because I arrived in a Galaxie?
You think I'm stupid because I enjoy these cars?
You know what I just realized?...You are a jerk, and my legs still work.

If any GM, Mopar, or AMC zealots (fortunately there are not too many who are THAT over the top) get too pushy with their rhetoric I always seem to quiet them by asking one question.
How many LeMans races has (fill in the blank) won?

Right. My legs work too, and I unsubscribed earlier.
Many Ford guys commented about the Le Mans wins but it fell on deaf ears. The majority of the Mopar faithful couldn't care less.

[475fetoploader]

There’s a common saying in my house, with responses to posts.  “I wonder if that was a human” in 2025, AI responds to social media, to make someone some money, or create a narrative.  This FE power is literally the only interaction I have with the interweb, in terms of chatting or posting etc.  I tried the Reddit but it made me want to throw things.  🤣

[fryedaddy]

i dont care much about the video or u.t. but did you guys know he used to work for a big time race program that ran sohc engines back in the day!

[410bruce]

i dont care much about the video or u.t. but did you guys know he used to work for a big time race program that ran sohc engines back in the day!

He did mention that. He talked about how the camshaft timing was a real pain and that the cure was the gear drive that, I think Sneaky Pete Robinson designed for it. UT tried finding that set-up while he was working on that deal but was unsuccessful.

[e philpott]

wasn't it Jim Barrillo he worked with ? (SP?)

[Phil Brown]

i dont care much about the video or u.t. but did you guys know he used to work for a big time race program that ran sohc engines back in the day!

Ok but what did he do, build motors or clean parts ? 

[DuckRyder]

Agree with clean dan.

Also have to keep in mind with very few exceptions (like Brent and Powell) the tube of you is  entertainment...

Isn't UT the one that outed the car at Kiwis after he promised not to and got Kiwi in lukewarm water with his customer? Or at least that was the story.

[kwood]

Yes he was and he was a real jerk about it too. UT basically said he had a right to video and to bad for Kiwi, that was the last video of his I have ever watched or will watch. Kiwi seems like a decent guy too.

[driveamerican]

Some of those Dodge guys really need to come up for air sometimes

[Katz427]

I met Tony DeFeo many years ago, he was working for a Magazine group, that included  "FAST Fords,and Muscle Mustangs", Super Chevy, among others. He was driving a white 5.0 Mustang, and drag racing it, but more of a MOPAR guy,he said. A "talker", but personable, back then, did photography at the tracks for various magazines. I only watched his podcast once, when someone asked ,' is Uncle Tony, the Tony DeFeo we knew" ? Yes, he sure is ! He is a refugee of the car magazine culture, that disappeared and some of them like Revin/Evan, resuscitate-ed their careers and found a home on U-Tube. Uncle Tony as someone noted, knows how too get clicks, ( which makes $$$), and I truly doubt he even believes what he says. I saw him as a "hustler " who enjoyed cars, and found he could make money doing what he liked. He also seemed too enjoy "breaking balls" !

[Qikbbstang]

10 Points on whom-ever pointed out the smaller FE block dimensions then the BBC and Mopar.  The yearly additions in HP to fuel engines made for the FE's extinction in Top Fuel. 
Uncle Tony is sadly very poorly informed as his knowledge of the early HEMI/Mopar and especially FEs is immensely missing and tainted.  But heck 50-60-70s block features are very complex to know or even research .   
I'd say this Ford HEMI was a decade+ before the 1st Mopar Hemi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p9eyUAIcX8

I do have to admit the Mopar.s five around head bolts may have been revolutionary and a "keeper" in T/F engines.  Though a quick look on webb looks like Mopar's current HEMIs use a 4'bolts-around cylinder pattern

https://www.enginebuildermag.com/2023/11/eotw-500-cid-top-fuel-hemi-engine/

 

[Ford428CJ]

Ehhhh just ignore it. He used a bunch of my calibration info years ago and grossly misunderstood it.
He ended up using 76 jets in 2x4 550cfm carbs and his conclusion was that the FE just doesn’t make any power.
Couldn’t be more ignorant.

   Agree Drew!