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Pile of junk still running
« on: August 04, 2024, 06:32:55 PM »


This kid visited over weekend to get the .....Dont know the english word for it but a saw that you cut metal with
i gave him
About 5 years ago he got scamed to buy this El camino rustbucket The suposed 350 seized when he backed i down from
the car hauler. It was a junk 305 that spun a bearing, he bought another 350 that "Run when i lifted it out," Sure! was only
a thin sliver left of a rodbearing and crank was junk. He bought another undestructibel sbc that run when they lifted it
out . same story junk crank spun bearing.
At that moment he was out of money. I felt sorry for him so i told him load up the junk you have, and i try to find you a good
crank and we build togehter an engine for cheap thath last until you get some money to build it better
I found a free 350 crank that was nicked, peened it down, filed it smooth
polished it in the lathe. I got him a re ring kit and new oilpump cheap. We picked and chosed the best parts and built it over a weekend
Had to hone it big.  Its the best running 350 chevy i have ever seen, totaly mecanical quiet and smoth, use no oil, runs strong  ;D
have been his daily driver for 5 years i think
Original it is a SS with 454 th400 12bolt positraction but those parts is sadly gone



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Re: Pile of junk still running
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2024, 12:09:20 AM »
You're a good man Heo!  (... and I don't just mean your taste in hats  ;D

I think that's an old horizontal band saw.  Great tool to have for cutting stock!  Good on you for helping the guy out with his 350  :D
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2024, 01:09:21 AM »
The best running engines I ever had and even saw were backyard builds using stock stuff. Stock bores honed using stones in a hand held drill, unturned stock cranks that loosened them up by about .001, stuff like that. They may not have been record holders, but they would take all kinds of abuse, were tons of fun and ran forever. Back in the day, that was just how we got started in cars. We're spoiled today. Everything has to be 'perfect'.
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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2024, 02:02:01 AM »
You're a good man Heo!  (... and I don't just mean your taste in hats  ;D

I think that's an old horizontal band saw.  Great tool to have for cutting stock!  Good on you for helping the guy out with his 350  :D

Im trying to be Bill, It feels nice to help out a kid that have the will and ambitions to lern
Now he knows how to build an engine whats important and whats not. And that his know
it all friends that said it cant be done, the same ones that said SBCs are indestructibel
probably have problem building a sandwich

Not a bandsaw but... like a big mecanical hacksaw. Came from shopclass were i went to 7th to 9th grade.
Dad bought the shop when school decided to quit teaching shopclass



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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2024, 02:19:31 AM »
The best running engines I ever had and even saw were backyard builds using stock stuff. Stock bores honed using stones in a hand held drill, unturned stock cranks that loosened them up by about .001, stuff like that. They may not have been record holders, but they would take all kinds of abuse, were tons of fun and ran forever. Back in the day, that was just how we got started in cars. We're spoiled today. Everything has to be 'perfect'.

Exactly Doug, It was loose everywhere but that make it rotate with ease. learned the kid what and how to meassure things
Selcted the best wheight matching piston rod sets a set of filefit rings quality bearings and gaskets a hv oilpump to compensate
loose bearings
Will it see 8 500 rpm, nooo but idles dead smooth, get good milage. At idle  the fanbelt chirping is what you hear most


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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2024, 08:53:27 AM »
Although I certainly would not build a "good" performance or race engine that way, I too have had pretty good results with "quick and dirty" cheapo " engine rebuilds. In high school, around 1974, I took the old, VERY tired 272 Y Block out of my 57 Ford Sedan Delivery, that I paid 50 bucks for, and drove to school, and me and a buddy did a dingleberry ball hone on the cylinders, had the crank polished, and bought a cheap rebuild kit from the Sears catalog, which had new rings, bearings, gaskets etc, and put it together in the basement. Ran it for a couple of years in his 59 4 door, then I ran it for a few more years in my 57 Custom sedan, sold the car, then heard that the 57 ended up in a wrecking yard a while later. Another buddy bought the engine out of it, and it has been in his very nice 57 Fairlane 2 door hardtop, for close to 30 years, and last I heard, it was still running fine although he only puts a few hundred miles a year on the car. And in 1990, the old 360 in my 74 F350 was getting really tired, so I bought a 390 from a 1976 F250 from a neighbor, again, did a ball hone on the cylinder walls, bought another cheap cast ring rebuild kit from a local parts store, put new rings on the original cast "410" pistons, but did have the crank ground .010-.010", and had the heads rebuilt, doubt that I had over $500. in the engine, including the core, parts, and machine work. I drove the truck from 1990 thru 2014, including several trips to dragstrips around 1000 miles away. Never needed to add any oil between changes, it just ran great. I bought my V10 F350 in 2014, sold the truck to another local drag racer, and it is still running great. He pulled the engine out over the winter, to replace the clutch that I had installed in 1990, and replaced some seeping gaskets (valve covers, intake, oil pan,), but after almost 35 years, the cheapo rebuild is still running well.
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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2024, 07:41:33 PM »
Heo, sometimes we just get a gut feeling about a person...a good feeling, something telling us this person is worth "investing" in for some reason or another.

As time passes we often find that genture, a gesture we considered a simple helping hand, to have been a good investment into a good person who has, many times over, "repaid" that favor to others as they now help and invest in those they are able to assist.

This is the best payment we can receive as we witness our efforts playing out well through a good person we chose to help.

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2024, 08:40:50 AM »
As a kid, When I bought my El Camino, I drove it off of the used car lot straight to fill the gas tank up. After gassing up it wouldn't start just cranked real slow. The old, meanest, crotchedy, stubborn station owner gave it a jump and said that the starter is the problem not the battery and advised me that chevy never made a good starter. Told me to pull it into the service bay on the lift, showed me where his tools were and told me to take the starter off. He then showed me how to put new bushings and brushes in it. That was a game changing life lesson for me. Now I'm the cranky (according to my wife) old man, but I'm still trying to pay that gesture forward. Good for you Heo. BTW I still have the Elky 49 years later and yes, it still has that same starter.
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2024, 05:25:39 PM »
Heo, sometimes we just get a gut feeling about a person...a good feeling, something telling us this person is worth "investing" in for some reason or another.

As time passes we often find that genture, a gesture we considered a simple helping hand, to have been a good investment into a good person who has, many times over, "repaid" that favor to others as they now help and invest in those they are able to assist.

This is the best payment we can receive as we witness our efforts playing out well through a good person we chose to help.

So true



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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2024, 05:39:37 PM »
As a kid, When I bought my El Camino, I drove it off of the used car lot straight to fill the gas tank up. After gassing up it wouldn't start just cranked real slow. The old, meanest, crotchedy, stubborn station owner gave it a jump and said that the starter is the problem not the battery and advised me that chevy never made a good starter. Told me to pull it into the service bay on the lift, showed me where his tools were and told me to take the starter off. He then showed me how to put new bushings and brushes in it. That was a game changing life lesson for me. Now I'm the cranky (according to my wife) old man, but I'm still trying to pay that gesture forward. Good for you Heo. BTW I still have the Elky 49 years later and yes, it still has that same starter.

Yes im the grumpy old man nowadays. But somehow sometimes my grumpiness makes the young kids laughing their asses of ??? ;D



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